Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burcu Güneş


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The result was keep - nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure). &mdash; Gordonofcartoon 13:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Burcu Güneş

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There are no sources to confirm notability. I looked, but couldn't find any sources in English. There's an article on another Wiki, but it doesn't appear to have sources verifying notability either. FisherQueen (Talk) 12:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep it. Burcu Gunes is very popular even here in Australia. Eregli bob 12:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I think her album discography passes WP:MUSIC, and that the benefit of the doubt should be granted to avoid systemic bias (i.e. risk of assuming non-notability because her work is in Turkish). For the actual information, her official website www.burcugunes.com has an English section with a biography. But to assess third-party sources, you need someone who reads Turkish. I've asked at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Turkey if anyone can help. Gordonofcartoon 14:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with User:Gordonofcartoon, the benefit of the doubt to avoid systemic bias is worthwhile ... and the discography it asserts seems to meet WP:BAND regardless, although as per nom the sources are hard to find in English. (I totally get why this got nominated... it's borderline.)  Accounting4Taste 02:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep WP:BIAS, too early for AFD. The article is quite long for a 6 hour old article (yet it can still be considered a stub). She is a popular singer in Turkey (I am not a fan of her though, don't know why, she has a quite beautiful voice). I did not notice any mistakes when I read the article, but it is unsourced now. I think inserting Unreferenced would be a better option than AFD for this new article, we should give time for improvements. She should meet the notability criteria. She has been on an international tour. According to tr:Burcu Güneş, her two songs are included in a French compilation album. Her second album (that she created with people like Horacio ‘‘El Negro’’ Hernandez, Jim Beard, ve Arto Tunç) sold 700,000 (not a bad number), again according to that article. Before being famous, she was the runner up for being the Turkish representative in Eurovision. Also you can check her website for news on her in media. I checked Hürriyet only which had 125 news listed involving her. This is only about her. There are interviews with her like this. She was the Turkish representative in a competititon  and won a jury award in her early years in the sector . Now I checked the fan site, and I guess the main source of the article is her biography there (no copyvio though). The article needs improvement. DenizTC 13:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. Okay, okay, I was wrong on this one, and I'm sorry.  to my credit, though, it was very hard to find sources in English, the article didn't make it clear that she was so popular, and the creator took off the prod without giving me any kind of information about it.  Thank you guys for setting me straight. -FisherQueen (Talk) 13:08, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks also, and to Denizz for checking it out. I think I'm allowed to close the AFD. Gordonofcartoon 13:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


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