Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burn This City


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 18:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Burn This City

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Non-notable song... fails WP:NALBUMS/WP:NSONGS... Atticle was prodded, but IP user removed prod... Adolphus79 (talk) 14:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Albums (including singles) are typically notable if the band is notable (per WP:NSONG), (this article is about a single album released last month not a "future song"). However, I was only able to find two references that I thought might pass WP:RS, and going back to the parent article Sonic Syndicate seeing that pretty much all the sources there are from the same website as the two I found, I'm not sure that the band itself is actually notable. I will wait to see if anyone else can dig something up before !voting. DigitalC (talk) 15:49, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's studio albums only that can be considered notable if the band is, not singles or EPs. They have their own separate criteria, charting being the most common. Rehevkor ✉  12:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: The only sources I found for this single/album were not reliable. In fact, I doubt the notability of the band. If there are no reliable sources for an article, it should not exist. DigitalC (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm sorry, you're right, the "physical version" has not been released yet... "future" has been removed from my rational... as far as your comments on the band's notability, I share your thoughts... I prodded all their singles and demo albums because there was no signs of them passing WP:NALBUMS/WP:NSONGS, but two of the album articles claim they have made it onto some national chart, which passes WP:NALBUMS... each of the member's articles have also been removed because they did not pass WP:MUSICBIO... The band's article, and 2 of the albums are about all I can find that even come close to passing notability concerns, but I have not done any heavy research to confirm the claims of the articles... If you do decide to do said research and take the band (or the 2 albums that claim to have charted) itself to AfD, please leave me a note... The creator/primary editor of a lot of these articles has a pretty long history of creating articles for non-notable bands and their albums, and uploading images without any licensing information... As much as I hate to do it, I had to pretty much go back through his entire contribution history and tag most of it for deletion after I came across this... I am still AGF'ng this user, and am trying to help him better understand policy (zero replies to anything written on his talk page), but for now am keeping a close eye on his contributions... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: As far as I can tell, a physical version has been released. A single with 2 versions of this song, and one other song on it. I will likely be starting a thread at WP:RSN regarding a source used many times on the bands article which I believe fails WP:RS. DigitalC (talk) 20:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The band do pass WP:BAND at least, having released 3 records on a major record label - but the article does need improving. Rehevkor ✉  12:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails to pass WP:NSONG and probably never will. Rehevkor ✉  12:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  15:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete for lack of sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Digital C--the band is plenty notable per our guidelines, since they have two (soon three) albums on Nuclear Blast. But this song is not notable in its own right, and not just because it sucks (if you'll pardon my POV). Drmies (talk) 19:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.