Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burning from the Inside (film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  essay  // 04:12, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Burning from the Inside (film)

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For background, see WP:Articles for deletion/Nick Peterson. These are five of his productions and, as one contributor remarked during that AfD: "Looks like the guy is creating one big walled garden using various web sites. IMDB has a web that is all about Peterson: a producer who has produced only Peterson's videos, actors who have only acted in Peterson's videos, music by Peterson's alter ego who does music for nothing but Petersen's videos, all reviewed by people who watch nothing but Peterson's videos. Some (not all) of his videos probably exist, but I can't find any notability to them that isn't a trivial mention of their titles, or online advertising written by Peterson himself." Note in particular that these have a total of 13 glowing reviews on IMDb, contributed by 7 reviewers, none of whom has ever reviewed anything except Nick Paterson films. The articles were all posted by ; Global Edge Mnemonics is associated with these films. Whether or not they exist or have been released, there is no indication that they come anywhere near the standard of WP:Notability (films). JohnCD (talk) 20:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —JohnCD (talk) 20:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete all without prejdice, as this is a multiple article nomination, and addressing the issues of all within a short period of time may be difficult. I have found that Burning from the Inside (film) exists. Speed of Light (film) exists. Writing on the Wall (film) exists. In and Out of Planet Earth exists. Est (TV series) exists.  And despite the appearances of a walled garden from an editor with an apparent COI (the films ARE releated through the director, after all), and while willing to grant good faith in the creation of articles about a few of this one director's many projects, there are not enough reliable sources (currently) offered in the articles to show any as meeting WP:NF.  HOWEVER, if any can be shown to meet WP:NF through WP:GNG, I would think a recreation of those that qualify could then be allowed. And a note:  I was not involved in the deletion discussion of the article on the director Nick Peterson, so I do not know how poorly that article may itself have been written or sourced. I might have even suggested a userfication, but we do have a problematic COI in the author's username.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment For the particular case of Est (TV series) I would like to suggest that it really does not exist and is a flat out hoax. Compare its visibility in the search above to actual real TV series. TV channels promote their stuff, and the claimed show gets exactly nothing. While the show is just one of the claimed credits of this person, it exhibits a problem in the articles: the guy is systematically putting up fake information in places such as IMDB. 88.112.59.31 (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. A mess of non-notable videos and things that are unlikely to exist at all. For an example of the latter category, try to find evidence that the reality TV series "Est" exists. It just doesn't. This guy has simply registered accounts on IMDB and such sites, posting fake info to make himself famous. Half made up fantasy, half non-notable one man garage band. 88.112.59.31 (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. We need independent secondary sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I originally nominated Peterson for deletion and suggested it was all a hoax, maybe I should have been more specific. I didn't mean that it didn't exist necessarily, more that anything written about it was exaggeration and fantasy. For a taste, have a look at the request for the creation of an article on 'virtual alien' (his musical pseudonym) here. He says he sold 4M singles from his first album, with the album itself selling 1m copies. His second album sold 3m copies etc. As for the films? 'All features are due to be finally released in late 2007 and 2008 in theatres, online or on DVD'.Stu.W UK (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not even an inkling that any of these films pass WP:NFILM. gnfnrf (talk) 04:58, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.