Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burning of the Valleys


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the discussion was: Delete and Redirect to a similar event  Im per a t § r (Talk) 02:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Burning of the Valleys

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Probably hoax -- no GHits, article creator created other unsourced articles around this time. There's a Wyoming Commemorative Association referring to the first battle, but it doesn't seem to refer to anything else happening there. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:38, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Further comment -- found the following. "True to his word, Dragging Canoe led the Chickamaugas in a strike at the Cumberland settlements in middle Tennessee and destroyed Mansker’s Station in 1779. In April 1780, they attacked Fort Nashborough (Nashville) but lost the battle of the Bluffs. In December 1780, they lost 80 men to forces under John Sevier at Boyd’s Creek near the Little Tennessee River." http://www.smokymountainnews.com/issues/06_03/06_18_03/mtn_voices.html No reference to battle described in article.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, thus proving it to be not a hoax. Cheers.  Im per a t § r (Talk) 21:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You might want to try searching in that book for any of the events claimed in the article before voting keep.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, a cursory examination of the text suggests that it is about four Canadian raids during 1780 and is complete unconnected with the subject of this AFD. --Cameron Scott (talk) 22:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Further, my thoughts (disclaimer: NOT a historian, NOT a student of this time period) are that this is a hoax but a quite clever one. He's picked a time period and place in which those events *could* have happened and used the names of people who *could* have been involved, however I can find no mention of those events in the book cited above or in any other source. --Cameron Scott (talk) 22:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Clearly a hoax. A battle in which native Americans killed 700 white Americans would be very well known and there'd be no shortage of sources on it. Nick-D (talk) 23:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, to put it in context, @ 270 white Americans were killed at the battle of little big horn, it's claimed that 700 were killed here - and nobody had written about it? pish I say. --Cameron Scott (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete clear hoax. --Cameron Scott (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —Nick-D (talk) 23:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


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