Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Burt Johnson


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The result was   keep. j⚛e deckertalk 20:09, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Burt Johnson

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fails WP:GNG. references only show the existence of his work. no reviews no indication of importance to his field John from Idegon (talk) 20:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Which GNG guidelines do you believe this does not meet? He is the creator of notable public works of art, and the sources are independent and reliable (with the exception of the last, which appears to be connected to a family member). Cmprince (talk) 20:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment I disagree completely about the both the reliability of the sources and the extent to which they show notability.  Having created works does not make an artist notable.  Having reliable secondary sources talking about them does.  Only the first reference is even a secondary source, and its policies do not include any fact checking, which means it is not reliable. (See the terms of use tab on the webpage)  The others simply are illustrations of his work, not critiques or reviews, which do nothing to show notability.  I could create several pieces and display them publicly and someone could photograph them and put it on the web.  That is not something anyone would want and it certainly wouldn't make me notable. John from Idegon (talk) 22:05, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I was about to take you to task for dismissing the second source from the NYC Parks Department, but I see now that the link was broken. I have repaired it; it comes from the department's Historical Signs Project. Separately, I would consider you notable if you had publicly commissioned art works in prominent locations, as is the case with Johnson. Cmprince (talk) 22:24, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep - creator of two publicly-commissioned artworks in major cities. Bearian (talk) 18:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Northern  Antarctica  ( T •  ₵  ) 02:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep there are sources and there are certainly more sources in not-yet-digital newspapers of the time. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep a quick look around the internet reveals sculptor was notable in his time, having died young at age 37. Has public works in NYC (2 war memorials), Palm Beach (prominent statue), LA (fine arts building), Claremont (Pomona College; war memorial), Georgia (war memorial in Atlanta; Agnes Scott College) etc etc etc. Ghosh45, 12:28, 18 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghosh45 (talk • contribs)
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