Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buryan Oleg


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 19:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Buryan Oleg

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Article proposed for deletion due to the fact that subject of article is not notable, article seemingly created and maintaned by subject of the article. Milik (talk) 22:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I've added this article because I collect pictures & artworks by Oleg Buryan, Katya Medvedeva, Alexander Labas & others artists. Chelovechek (talk) 01:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is unsourced. Prove the subject's notability by adding references. And since it's in English Wikipedia, most sources have to be in English. Daniil Maslyuk (talk) 22:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Daniil, that's not true that most sources need to be in English. See Verifiability. I am neutral on whether the sourcing proves notability, but the article isn't unsourced, it has several references to news articles. One thing to note is that his name is actually Oleg Buryan, not Buryan Oleg, which may affect searching. Fences  &amp;  Windows  20:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for correcting me. Yeah, Chelovechek worked hard to add references after the article had been nominated for deletion. Sourced articles are all good. 203.167.243.98 (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

File Was uploaded by Chelovechek, and was marked as copyright owner allowed this image to be uploaded. Blog, see article for link to blog, of Buryan Oleg has same user picture as image in the article the only difference is that image is lower resolution image. Wikipedia article also listed as a home page of the blogger, and by definition Wikipedia article is not a home page, but and encyclopedia article. I generally frown upon articles being created or edited by subjects of an article. Milik (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Buryan_Oleg for a message apparently from the subject of the article, who is not the same as the article creator. Fences &amp;  Windows  13:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded this picture to the comment added to Buryan's blog ( http://toy-marker.livejournal.com/328046.html?thread=1289582#t1289582 ) and Wikipedia (later) and deleted it from Wikipedia after receiving Oleg's request because of its low quality. Now you are speaking about a picture which is not found in the article in its present form. This seems to be an absurd reaction and demonstrates your biased attitude towards me and Oleg Buryan giving us a good reason to appeal to a grievance commission. Specially for Milike: have a look at the photo of the mentioned picture in my apartment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thunderstorm_in_My_Apartment.jpg Chelovechek (talk) 22:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't have any bias against you or subject of the article. When I came across this article following things attracted my attention: Article created and edited by one person (which is fine), but this person hasn't edited any other articles, article is written in style which is consistent, in my opinion, with self promotion, further, I failed to see notability. So I nominated this article for deletion after discussion. This nomination was meant to create a discussion, so other members of community can agree or disagree with me. I don't know, you, nor subject of the article. I'm concerned that Wikipedia may be used as a promotional tool, which it is not. Please nominate this file http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Groza_v_Gorode_for_Milik.jpg for speedy deletion. Wikipedia is not a forum. Milik (talk) 03:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Corrected and added according to your requirements: "...but this person hasn't edited any other articles": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg_Toy_Museum "...I failed to see notability": "In 1989, O. Buryan was awarded a VDNKh Silver medal for his contribution to Russian culture". Chelovechek (talk) 12:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Can we use Notability_(people) as a starting point for this debate? Milik (talk) 04:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep – Agree with Milik that Creative Professionals is a legitimate reason for inclusion. Also was able to find the following sources, which lend themselves to establishing notability Thanks ShoesssS Talk 17:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks to ShoesssS Talk for the idea of searching! Please see: Google Search+Books "Oleg Buryan"! Chelovechek (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. The sources presented demonstrate notability. There's no need for the sources to be in English, but, in this case, even the English sources are enough. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Ilustrations copyrights
Chelovechek, to best of my knowledge creator of the work retains copyright to their work, and derived work(photographs) even if they see work itself. You may want to change copyright messages on images of work by Buryan Oleg, with his permission, of course, to something more suitable. take a look at this: Image_copyright_tags or this. Milik (talk) 18:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.