Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buskoe


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Go   Phightins  !  23:03, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Buskoe

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The article does not establish why it is notable, or what lasting effect it had. Furthermore the article has a very definitive point of view and is written more like a story being told than an actual article. Finally I am unable verify any of the references at the end of the article as actually existing or providing any credence to the claims made in the article. Mifter (talk) 02:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I posted the article. The facts are true, but Mr. Mifter makes a point about having revealed a "point of view" - i.e. an analysis in addition to "just the facts." I propose trimming it, but maybe someone else should do that. 1. The main "ground truth" here is the article by Mr. Frode Skarsberg, which I have in Norwegian. (an English version is in the Polar Record.) The other sources are auxiliary, except that the NYT articles show the American reaction. 2. Whether this incident had lasting importance is debatable, as it always is with episodes in history. It was a noted one, though, and one most historians probably believe was a piece of the progression in ending US neutrality. For that reason it is important that people have a place to read what actually happened, even if they don't speak Norwegian. 3. Agree that "analysis" related facts should be trimmed. 4. If you want to see something that's off the edge in terms of neutrality and emotion, I suggest y'all read the article on USCGC Northland. Adios! Archivist2 (talk) 02:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite. Although speculation on my part, it's not unlikely that this influenced the later US activity on Greenland (and/or Iceland), and it might also a predecessor to Weather Station Kurt. According to this and this Buskoe appears to be the first ship captured by the US prior to the war starting. As far as I can tell the incident is notable, but needs a rewrite and additional information on any lasting impact. Bjelleklang -  talk 08:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Userfy for the rewrite The big question hanging over the article is, "did anyone care?" The lede almost states that nobody did. If it can be rewritten to reduce it to an encyclopedic level of detail and if it can be placed in a larger context it which it has some importance, then I can see keeping it. Mangoe (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 19:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Theo polisme  00:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


 * keep article has had more detail added establishing a credible claim for notability.--Salix (talk): 08:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The seizure of this vessel was clearly a significant incident in WWII. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.