Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/C. R. Kesavan


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The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:25, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

C. R. Kesavan

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He is a spokesperson for the party, not an elected politician. Also many references talk about the fact that he is the great-grandson of C. Rajagopalachari, a legendary figure during the Indian independence movement and a little while after. No source mentions how he passes WP:ANYBIO by himself. So I believe this person is not notable enough. Daiyusha (talk) 09:20, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Update: The article creator has been banned for being a sockpuppet, part of a reasonably big sockfarm. Daiyusha (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - He presided as the Vice-President of the Rajiv Gandhi National Institute of Youth Development, which is a ministerial position. He also held the post of board member of the Prasar Bharati(India's largest Public broadcasting agency). He is a very prominent TV figure, who gets featured in most national TV debates, as he represents the views of the the Indian National Congress. A lot of national channel debates and discussions show up when his name is video searched. These, I believe, allow the article to satisfy the conditions of WP:NPOL, he has held national office and has had significant press coverage. It is true that he is referred to as the great grandson of C. Rajagopalachari in most news sources. However, I believe this must not be held as grounds for claiming the article as not notable enough. Crayonmush (talk) 12:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Is the Vice president of the RGNIYD a ministerial position, I doubt that, based on what I know ministers in India are at the least heads of a department(like transportation, education etc) of a state . Being a board member of a company is not enough to be notable. Being a prominent TV figure, now that could be a sign of notability. TO be considered for WP:NPOL he should be a politician or atleast participated in an election. Daiyusha (talk) 13:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected, the Vice President/Vice Chairman (used interchangeably ) of the RGNIYD is not a ministerial position, it is held by someone who is "an eminent person in the field of Youth Development to be nominated by the Visitor", as per the Act(source). Doesn't being a spokesperson of a party mean he is a politician, as a Politician is defined as a person active in party politics, or a person holding or seeking office in government. Thank you for the quick response. Crayonmush (talk) 13:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * "Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature", well that implies elected people are considered politicians as per WP:NPOL. Of course the meaning is a bit vague, but for wiki purposes only elected people are considered so. Daiyusha (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with you about this particular article, but the claim that "for wiki purposes only elected people are considered so" is not true. No member of the federal executive branch in the US is elected, apart from the president and vice-president, but senior members clearly pass WP:POLITICIAN by virtue of their offices. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:06, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked sockpuppet: Sockpuppet investigations/Himalayrd. MER-C 09:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 18:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:19, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability for biographies of living persons. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:19, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG as there is no substantive coverage on the subject in multiple independent and reliable sources. चाचा विधायक हैं हमारे is not a valid claim to notability. :) — Nearly Headless Nick   {c}  11:04, 17 March 2019 (UTC)


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