Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJML (AM)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. A model AfD discussion with thoughtful consideration of sources. Ultimately there is consensus that we don't have enough for an article. Haukur (talk) 21:15, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

CJML (AM)

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Poorly referenced article about a defunct unlicensed low-power temporary special events radio station that operated for a few weeks in 2005. As always, radio stations like this are not entitled to a permanent presumption of notability just because they existed -- but the "references" are unreliable DX-hobby blogs that are not support for notability at all, not real media coverage. And the Recnet entry that was listed as an external link isn't for this station, but for an unrelated FM radio station that isn't even in the same province as this one, let alone the same city. There's simply no real basis, or valid sourcing, for permanent notability here. Bearcat (talk) 04:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Manitoba-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * All I could find while trying to posit this article's notability were two mentions in the Winnipeg Free Press, but only discussing it as a temporary venture which broadcast for as much as two weeks a month at times in 2005 and 2006. Delete. Raymie (t • c) 04:47, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: Mostly because I can add this DX'er report (which I know is OR but I am willing to believe) to the mix with Raymie's newspaper articles. This could be the shortest-lived AM station in the history of AM radio. :)  That, in and of itself, is notable. :D  That said, the article won't be missed if it is deleted.  A couple weeks worth (if that) of broadcasts on a former station's frequency for "events".  It won't be missed.  Interesting (for the fact it's short-lived), yes.  Missed, no. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:27 on July 12, 2020 (UTC) •  #StayAtHome • #BlackLivesMatter

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D My Son  06:52, 19 July 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: Low-power temporary special events stations might be a bit more noteworthy than, say, a "VF" station, but not by much, and it might be difficult to prove if this is "the shortest-lived AM station", given the many short-lived stations in the 1920s (and the lack of guarantees that some other, ultimately-shorter-lived special event station hasn't come along at some point). The two newspaper citations provided ought to be useful as refs for the brief mention of CJML in the article for CKY-FM (the license successor to the old CKY 580, whose frequency was reused for CJML), but that's about it. -- WC  Quidditch  ☎   ✎  23:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I said it "could" be the "the shortest-lived AM station". :) But I'm interested by weird things, so take that into consideration too. :) -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 18:12 on July 27, 2020 (UTC) •  #WearAMask • #BlackLivesMatter

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/ talk ¦ contribs \ 18:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Del as non notable; even taking the broad view that every radio station fully licensed and originating programming in USA/Can is notable – which I think is more or less the guideline, no? – there's not even evidence of that (the temporary low-power operation doesn't cut it), nor much utility as a historical reference since details are so scant. Just put a sentence in CKY with the newspaper articles and be done with it. I'm surprised this has been relisted. Xenon54 (talk) 20:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.