Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Gavlas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Euryalus (talk) 05:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

CJ Gavlas

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Originally prodded with "Does not meet GNG, and junior volleyball players, by consensus at wp:volleyball, are not notable." Was de-prodded with the following rationale: "I believe that the page should remain, as he was a member of the Canadian junior national team, and was CIS Rookie of the Year. There are many college players in other sports who have wikipedia pages of their own, so it seems fair that volleyball players should be able as well." WP:OSE isn't a valid rationale, and the reasons for the original prod still remain.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:35, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable volleyball player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:39, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. While it's true that we do have some articles about college players in other sports, that's because those players pass the inclusion criteria that permit a college player to have a Wikipedia article — it does not mean that all college athletes automatically get into Wikipedia just because they exist. Being on the national volleyball team at the Olympics, for example, would be a notability pass, but being on the national team at the regional NORCECA championships is not. And while winning Rookie of the Year from Canadian Interuniversity Sport is potentially a stronger notability claim, it's not strong enough to get a person into Wikipedia if the only source you can provide is a PDF of NORCECA's own organizational newsletter — even our inclusion rules for sportspeople still require the claim to be referenced to reliable source coverage in media, not primary sources published by organizations the subject is directly affiliated with. No prejudice against recreation in the future if better sourcing can be shown, but the sourcing here ain't cutting it — a person passes our inclusion criteria when the claim to passing our inclusion criteria is reliably sourced, not when it's merely unsourcedly or primary-sourcedly claimed. Bearcat (talk) 15:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


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