Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CKOO-FM Old


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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 07:30, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

CKOO-FM Old

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Yet another instance of a radio station whose Wikipedia article got prematurely rush-jobbed into place the moment its license to start broadcasting was issued, but then the station apparently failed to launch and had its license expire. I can find no record, on either Spectrum Direct or REC Networks, of any station operating on this frequency in this town under any call sign, and I can find no other reliably sourced indication anywhere else either (not even the Canadian Communications Foundation, which keeps a page on every radio station that has ever existed in Canada) that it ever actually made it to air at all. But WP:NMEDIA requires us to wait until a radio station is verifiably on the air before we start the article, precisely because this exact sort of situation happens far more often than many people would think. And furthermore, this station's claimed call sign was assigned to another (already established) station a couple of weeks ago — which, at the very least, means that even if this station did make it to air at some point it didn't stay there very long. Simply put, there's literally no evidence whatsoever that this station ever actually made it to air at all — and if we can't verify that it ever actually launched, we can't keep it. Bearcat (talk) 05:15, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   &#9742;   &#9998;  23:26, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete: Stations that are only on paper, but never reach the air, are not notable under WP:NMEDIA. This is the case here.  The CKOO-FM callsign is now being used by another, unassociated station. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 23:38 on February 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Bearcat not being able to find anything would be enough on its own for me, but I did my own independent research too. There are online sources that provide information about businesses belonging to the Kahkewistahaw Reserve. There's no radio station listed among those businesses, nor can I find any reference to there ever having been. Mlaffs (talk) 23:49, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: The station never went to air; its authorization expired unbuilt. (They had until May 7, 2014 to launch, yet according to, Does it mean anything that this statement was  by the since-indeffed ? That same edit also reworded the article in such a way to indicate the station had launched, but without a single source for this. The same user also moved the article from the placeholder "105.7 FM Broadview, Saskatchewan" title to CKOO-FM.) Any theoretical presumed notability for broadcast stations applies exclusively to stations that actually make it on the air — and it appears that never happened for this station. (Having your call sign reassigned to another, already-existing station is not a good sign…) Such notability, of course, also requires sufficient coverage in reliable sources — and on that note, there of course isn't anywhere near the sourcing necessary to meet the general notability guideline, either. (The only non-CRTC source in the article, relating to the assignment of the call sign, is a message board, which does not constitute a reliable source.) -- WC  Quidditch   &#9742;   &#9998;  00:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh gawd, I didn't even notice that Nathan Jay Williams was involved here. That's really just the ultimate kick in the ass: what got him editblocked was a combination of (1) repeated attempts to arbitrarily shut down pending AFD discussions on the glut of unlicensed tourist information radio stations that we killed off last year, and (2) repeated attempts to recreate the same articles again after they got deleted, without actually showing any improved evidence of notability or any better referencing, and after they got speedied and he got a warning not to recreate deleted articles, simply ignoring all of that and recreating them again. And when I went to SPI for a sockcheck on the creator of last year's Articles for deletion/New 94.3 FM Kentville, Nova Scotia stunt, even though the SPI came back as "unrelated" McClellandRA actually confirmed that my initial suspicion that he was a Nathan Jay Williams sock was correct by admitting it on his own userpage, before finally getting blocked on a separate SPI initiated by somebody else. Good grief. Bearcat (talk) 01:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: The page move connected to this AfD has been executed after this AfD was complete. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 00:51 on February 12, 2018 (UTC)


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