Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caawiye app


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 18:36, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Caawiye app

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Contested PROD. The reasoning (which I agree with) was "Run-of-the-mill app without any proof of passing WP:NCORP" Bensci54 (talk) 16:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Software, Websites,  and Somalia. Skynxnex (talk) 18:19, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello Bensci54,
 * Thank you for your message. We understand that there is a concern about the notability of the Caawiye app and the reasoning behind the proposed deletion.
 * As per the guidelines of Wikipedia, articles on companies or organizations must meet the notability guidelines established in WP:NCORP. This includes demonstrating significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
 * We believe that the Caawiye app has demonstrated its notability through the coverage it has received in various media outlets, as well as its popularity among users in Somalia. The article has also been updated with additional references to meet the requirements of Wikipedia's content policies.
 * We hope this addresses your concerns. If you have any further questions or comments, please don't hesitate to let us know.
 * Best regards,Shahwah23 Shahwah23 (talk) 19:21, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - As a article about an application, the article's subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSOFT. I'm not so sure WP:NCORP is as applicable here, but it would meet those criteria either. The somaliblogger.com site is the Caawiye website so that's not an independent source. There's a scholarly article mentioned in the Wikipedia article but I can't find any journal just called "Journal of Education Technology", and there are multiple scholarly authors who are named Angela Lee (example 1, example 2, example 3) who write in areas that would be covered in journals that are similar sounding to or include the phrase "Journal of Education Technology". I can't find a paper under that name, even when searching random journals that include "Journal of Education Technology" in the name and happen to have a Vol 35, No 2. I can't find this paper, which is not to say it doesn't exist, but I suspect that if this paper mentions this article's subject, it is going to be a passing mention or an example with little context as to the app itself. Outside of the app's website and this paper that I can't find, there's no additional sources that I can find, and what's here doesn't show notability. I will note that the app is available in both English and Somali and I do not speak Somali so there may be Somali sources that I am not aware of, but with the information on hand, the article fails WP:GNG and WP:NSOFT. - Aoidh (talk) 04:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Aoidh,
 * Thank you for taking the time to review the Caawiye app Wikipedia article. We appreciate your input regarding the article's subject's notability.
 * As for the scholarly article mentioned in the article, we will make sure to provide a more specific citation to avoid confusion. Additionally, we understand that the somaliblogger.com site is not an independent source and we will strive to include more sources to demonstrate the app's notability.
 * Furthermore, we acknowledge that the app is available in both English and Somali, and we will do our best to find reliable sources in both languages to further establish the app's notability.
 * Thank you for bringing this to our attention and we will work to improve the article accordingly.
 * Best regards,
 * shahwah23 Shahwah23 (talk) 09:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Who is "we" and what journal is the Journal of Education Technology supposed to be? Is there a DOI or a link to the paper itself? I see that the paper was removed from the Wikipedia article, why wasn't it just clarified instead? - Aoidh (talk) 08:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - not enough in-depth sourcing to meet WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Onel 5969  TT me 20:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not enough reliable sources to meet WP:GNG and the article looks like an advertisement. It also looks like based on the author's user page and the app's website that they're affiliated with the developer in some way, which is WP:COI. Lewcm (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.