Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cackleberry Island


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The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 19:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Cackleberry Island

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I found no significant coverage of this small island in my searches. Sourcing consists entirely of information extracted from large datasets, and the Geonames listing is the only one that's specific to the location. –dlthewave ☎ 17:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Canada. –dlthewave ☎ 17:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Lake Nipigon. Delete Zooming in on Mapcarta this appears to be no more than 100 metres in length. I can't see how this can be populated. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:33, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islands-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:25, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Redirecting a topic to an article which does not, and will not ever, mention the topic, seems unhelpful to readers, to me. Lake Nipigon is big, "4,848 km2 (1,872 sq mi)" in area apparently.  Is there a more suitable article which a redirect can target, which can cover it? --Doncram (talk,contribs) 06:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete geocruft. Tiny spit of land with no indication of uniqueness or importance. Sources seem to be mundane factoids and broad regional datasets of dubious accuracy just going by common sense (see above— the population is listed as “less than 2 per sqKm but the island doesn’t even appear to be that big). Dronebogus (talk) 01:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete as geocruft per @Dronebogus. No RSes have been provided at the page or elsewhere which establish notability per WP:NLAND. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 16:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge/redirect to List of islands of Ontario. Peter James (talk) 17:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Originally I had also tried to find a good redirect target, but then I realised this 'island' is only 100 metres long. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:40, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * List of islands of Ontario lists 100 islands, some of similar size or smaller; looking at geonames.org there are around 120-130 named islands in Lake Nipigon. Peter James (talk) 14:46, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's mildly confusing that User:Peter James refers to islands in the Ottawa River, which is not relevant here but would be relevant in ongoing Articles for deletion/Pig Island (Ottawa) instead. List of islands of Ontario lists five islands, each vastly larger than this one, out of thousands of islands visible in Lake Nipigon.  I'll take Peter James at their word that 120-130 of those are named in geonames.org.  List of islands of Ontario has unclear inclusion criteria but appears to try to list relatively significant islands.  IMHO there is no way this island should ever be listed in any section of List of islands of Ontario, though, so the topic should not be merged or redirected to there. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 09:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There should not be arbitrarily different criteria for inclusion in different sections of the same list (and geonames.org has the Geographical Names Board of Canada as its main source in that area, the same as currently used in the Ottawa River section). Peter James (talk) 13:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS applies, meaning this argument doesn't hold much weight, because those other places should probably be deleted as well. and more importantly, the only reason for a REDIRECT should be if we think there are sufficient incoming links to this name that it would be helpful for anyone to go to this link and see the list. As far as I can tell, there are exactly zero such incoming links here, in mainspace anyway. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 15:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There are many similar redirects, often as the result of AFD, and there would be no reason to delete in WP:RFD if added to the list. Peter James (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, as no information specific to the place is known or included in article, besides its coordinates. It is not significant enough to mention in any list-article proposed.  Not mentioned in any Wikipedia mainspace article at all, after I just deleted it from a disambiguation page where it should not have appeared. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 09:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


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