Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caleb Postlewait


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. NFOOTY is a presumption of GNG. This has been challenged here. Whilst numerous references have been added to the article, they are almost all primary sources or routine match reporting. It seems quite clear that not only does this player not pass GNG and that in principle it is hard to imagine a scenario where a player who has played only 23 minutes of fully professional football could possibly pass GNG, but also that there is consensus that technically passing the SNG is not enough. Fenix down (talk) 07:25, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Caleb Postlewait

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Played a single season for the Riverhounds, playing 23 minutes in one match. Has since retired to a career in banking/auto-dealership/high-school coaching. Very little coverage of his Riverhounds season - more coverage actually of his high school coaching (of a very local nature - not sufficient for GNG).Icewhiz (talk) 08:18, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Icewhiz (talk) 08:18, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep The article clearly passes the criteria of notability as stated in the Football/Fully professional leagues list. Shotgun pete 8:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep – clearly passes WP:NFOOTY, currently working on rewriting the article. 21.colinthompson (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:REFBOMBing the article does not establish notability (though the present article does have a few BLP violations by using non-reliable or un-sourced material). The 20 nominal sources in the 8 April version - either don't mention the subject, mention him in passing, aren't reliable, or aren't independent (e.g. employer) - or a combination thereof. If you are asserting this subject passes WP:GNG (NFOOTY merely creating a presumption - a weak one here given that the subject here had 23 minutes of play and has since moved on to other pursuits (as well as non-pro play / high school coaching) - please provide "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" - say 3-4 in-depth reliable and independent sources. Icewhiz (talk) 07:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL; needs improving, not deleting. GiantSnowman 07:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – Per recent consensus that one NFOOTY-qualifying game doesn't make a player notable in the absence of non-routine, significant coverage from independent reliable sources. Compare these recent AfDs      , all 1–3 NFOOTY games with no GNG that resulted in deletion consensus, with these recent AfDs       which had five or fewer documented NFOOTY games but were keeps or no consensus because of available WP:SIGCOV. I can find no significant coverage for Postlewait, and one NFOOTY minor league game doesn't make a difference. Leviv&thinsp;ich  18:01, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:57, 14 April 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:43, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - As per cases drawn by Levivich above with deletion consensus for multiple recent similar AfDs. Playing 23 minutes in one match during one season, with very little coverage from secondary sources does not make one notable, especially when much of the coverage is from his subsequent life as local high school coach. Spyder212 (talk) 20:32, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


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