Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caleche Manos


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:39, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Caleche Manos

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Manos only thing that comes close to a claim to fame is being Miss Nevada. However that is not a title that conveys notability. In fact of the 4 sources with the article, the 4th is a Las Vegas Review Journal article that basically screams "Miss American pageant does not matter anymore." Of the 4 sources, only one is about her, and that is the very local paper from her part of Nevada. One Las Vegas article fact checks her loss the previous year. The other 2 exist because the Miss America pageant was in Las Vegas and only mention her in passing. A google search showed up a few articles about her suing the Los Angeles police department in 2012 for how she was treated when investigators went to her apartment instead of the one they had a warrant for. However that would be excluded on "Wikipedia is not news" guidelines. We have nothing of substance about her to justify notability. John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:38, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment This discussion was originally closed as no consensus because there is a lack of Wikipedia consensus on the matter on December 6th, after I presented some issues to the closer, and another editor argued that these should be considered on a case by case basis, the administrator who closed gave permission to reopen this discussion. I primarily state this so the time frame when this discussion has actually been open can be clearly seen. It was closed from early December 6th (about 7 GMT) to about 14 GMT on December 9th.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nevada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 01:38, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Being a beauty pageant winner is not enough in itself to prove notability.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 03:18, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as a mere participation is only trivial and is therefore not exchangeable for notability and substance, not is the fact that's all there exists to say. SwisterTwister   talk  23:13, 14 December 2016 (UTC)


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