Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cali Ruchala (third nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 08:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Cali Ruchala
This is a curious recently recreated page I am bringing here to get some opinion/consensus on. I first noticed this article when it appeared on AIV. It had been around for quite a while (since 2004 if you look at the article's talk page and the first AfD), but two days later it was listed for AfD and within thirty minutes, before the AfD3 was made and without any comment from anyone, the article was deleted. I looked into this before, and there are some curious things going on between the two editors mentioned in the AIV report, and involved in editing the article (eg ). I can only see these issues arising again, and maybe even another hasty deletion, so I think it best to get some opinion here. This person may be a journalist, and a founder of a publishing press. The recently recreated article is currently light on content, but it has looked more convincing. I have no vote at this time. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I recently came across some material written by Cali Ruchala and was surprised not to find anything about him/her in Wikipedia, - on further search I noted that there had been an article and I basically restored it as I did not see in the discussion of the article any reason for deletion. Indeed it looked to me that the consensus of the few respondents was "keep". I agree that there is not much information but a little is better than nothing, and we have to trust the wiki to get more over time. Is Cali Ruchala the real name or a nome-de-plume? This a spurious argument. That's all we have, and there are lots of people who are listed here not by their given name. If it is not the real name, let us say so in the article. So that's my reason to keep/restore the article.Ekem 02:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. There are issues around maintaining articles on living people, mainly because they become targets for vandals, but I think we should give it a chance since so much time has passed. The fact that it was recreated independantly is a strong suggestion of notability. --  Aguerriero  ( talk ) 15:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per WP:BIO. Stifle (talk) 18:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Aguerriero's comments. Article needs to be expanded. But "Cali Ruchala" gets plenty of Ghits, and as Aguerriero indicates, the article being independently recreated strongly suggests notability. Scorpiondollprincess 13:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone who has published a few things on the internet gets plenty of Ghits.  Try Googling "Cary Bass" or "Cary Michael Bass" (use quotes).  Not an indication of nobility.  Bastique &#09660; parler voir 23:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * keep please per aguerrieros comments also where is the second nomination Yuckfoo 21:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. Frankly, the press is no longer in existence.  Anyone can start a journal.  There is no other indication of notability.  The fact that it was recreated has less to do with notability than to do with how many people know who he is.  There's a big difference between the two.  Barring other evidence, this individual fails WP:BIO on every level.  Bastique &#09660; parler voir 23:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


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