Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/California–Japan relations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to Japan–United States relations. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 06:16, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

California–Japan relations

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we only create articles between nations not states and nations. The only information of value here is on Japanese Californians which can easily be covered in Japanese Americans. LibStar (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep California is a state which has a government which passed relevant legislation, e.g. California Alien Land Law of 1913. Andrew D. (talk) 17:27, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:15, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:15, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:15, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete There is no content about the subject present in the article and no indication of notability. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 18:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. The nominator's claim that the topic is inherently non-notable is problematic. We can create articles on any notable topic, and California does have particularly strong trade and cultural links to Japan. The real question is whether the topic of California–Japan relations has been widely discussed in reliable sources, and I believe that it passes that bar:, ,, , , , , . Additionally, the governors of California make frequent trips to Japan representing their state, and, as Andrew D. pointed out, California has had legislation specifically targeting Japanese nationals and immigrants. The current content of the article is weak, and we won't lose much if it's deleted, but I'm convinced that this is a notable topic. Pburka (talk) 21:56, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep -- the article as it currently stands does not make a strong case, but the sources presented by is indicative of notability. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:09, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  19:09, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Japan–United States relations (do not merge) There is not enough unique content to justify an article. Currently I see a comparison box, which is not necessary. A couple of badly sourced sentences about Japanese Californians, which seems to be largely WP:OR. A 2 sentence random content about economic links which isn't even that important. Articles like these do not contribute anything. I would suggest a redirect. In case there is information in the future, it can be restored. But the current information is not useful. I am opposed to a merge because I do not consider the information useful and a forced AfD Merge is messy. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * , are you OK with a redirect here? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Japan-United States relations. Under the U.S. Constitution, states technically aren't allowed to have their own foreign relations. It's common for governors of U.S. states to go on foreign trade missions regardless, but beyond that, I think the waters are muddy here. Anything worth keeping can go into the national level article. South Nashua (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:16, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Anything that is particularly of note can be included on the main Japan-US page. I think it is generally not a good idea to have bilateral relations pages between sovereign nations and non-sovereign subregions. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to Japan-United States relations. Anything can easily be covered there. Not independently notable. AusLondonder (talk) 06:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.