Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/California secessionists

California secessionists
California secessionists was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was '''delete." Article was deleted while discussion was underway.

A bizarre cross between extreme POV, original research and made-up stuff. Seriously claims that a "majority" of Californians support secession from the United States. A "California secession" movement exists, but it isn't any more notable than, say, "Arkansas secession" or "Fresno secession." --Szyslak 12:06, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: The CA secessionist movement is more active and notable, IMO, than others, but an article on them would exist at another title (Bear State Republic? Golden State Republic? Californians...what is the name of the group?). Since that's true, the question for this is whether to move this article or merge and redirect.  Well, there's nothing in the article worth saving, nothing to merge, and no big need to redirect.  Therefore, just delete. Geogre 14:55, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. And the only links I could turn up were for a livejournal with the name, some tripod pages, other free sites, and a low-activity yahoo group.  There is no large-scale, organized secessionist movement in California, apparently. hfool 15:38, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * "Delete.' I've heard enough of a news buzz about the movement to think it could warrant an article, but I don't find any useful information in this particular one to make me think it's salvageable. Katefan0 15:43, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * Not good at present. But perhaps it's a worthy topic; we ought to have good information on political topics of all kinds. I'd probably vote to keep an article on California secessionism. This, though, I'm not sure if it's worth keeping unless radically cleaned up. Everyking 06:58, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree with Katefan0. Tempshill 22:59, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, Heh, Californinans, Orginize? That will be the day Neo2256
 * Ha, looks like we've fooled you all! And you thought we were all just medical-marijuana users! The conspiracy is proven once again to be successfully hidden from non-techies the world over! Definitely delete this page or someone might begin to suspect... -Secretly a Californian
 * Not to mention the fact that we native Californians organize quite well. I've never heard of such a movement, the article at present is hopelessly POV and...oops!  I'm late for my encounter group!  Delete. - Lucky 6.9 00:13, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete A2Kafir 03:31, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as incomplete. Breaking away from the US is one thing, but most California secessionist groups support parts of the state seceding from others, such as the Bay Area (wants to take Northern California and sucede from Southern California, cause, dammit, they stole our water), non-Bay Area Northern California (wants to secede from the Bay Area and Southern California, cause, dammit, they stole our water), Nevada County (hey, they named the state after us, the lest we can do is join them; besides, everyone in California is stealing our water), and of course Berkeley (they don't want to secede but many other parts of California would like to kick them out and impose strict immigration controls and a large border fence, and, of course, reallocate their supply of stolen water). Of course, what do I care, San Francisco is forcing Oakland to name their half of the bridge after me. Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico 23:37, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Cleanup. Please. While the current article is clearly soapboxing, that doesn't IMO make the notion of U.S. state sucession movements unencyclopedic. - [[User:KeithTyler|Keith D. Tyler  [ flame ] ]] 19:29, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

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