Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Californian Accent

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Californian Accent
This page appears to be made up "original research" (using the term loosely). Daniel Quinlan 06:05, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

See also VfD for Californian Dialect mutation article. Mikkalai 22:40, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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 * Delete. As a native Californian, I can tell you that there is no such thing as a statewide accent. (Maybe the O.C. but that's another story). The immigrants from other countries and the migrants from other areas of the United States that have come over the years have made that impossible. Zzyzx11 09:41, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. -- Robert Pendray 09:43, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Californians would call it "California accent" anyway.  The use of the word "Californian" as an adjective is not a California usage.  RickK 09:45, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * keep or rename if references can be provided . The idea that there is no Calfornia(n) accent is POV. I get 1,670 google hits for "califonian accent" and 3,370 for "california accent", although a lot of them seem to be about california accent pillows and car rentals, whatever they might be. Kappa 14:01, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * One reference: http://www.pbs.org/speak/seatosea/americanvarieties/californian/
 * Comment - Until you cite some references to research papers from notable linguistics, colleges and universities, I will stand by my Delete vote. Zzyzx11 19:40, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * That's ok, but at least it refutes the 'original research' theory which is the basis for this nomination. Kappa 20:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment:Well that source confirms that there is no single "California Accent". There are many California accents.  As a native Californian, I have also noticed the many different accents. &mdash; J3ff 21:47, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * So should we try to cover them or not? Kappa 23:58, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Beware orig research. Let us better try to "notice" a book on the topic. Then it will speak in favor of the article. Mikkalai 00:38, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Citizens of some other states seem to sound the same to me. There's no such thing as an accent within the borders of California. Plus, California is home to people from all around the world, who speak English with their own accent, so who's to say what California's one accent is? There's no need for this article. Evanwohrman 00:58, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Two reasons ... I've heard people in media sciences (and in the tech side of entertainment, where my experience is) refer to this as the "Western Regional Dialect," not the Californian Accent. Secondly, the article doesn't have it right ... now if they had noted that "o" as in "not" becomes "aw" as in "nawt," well, then they might have a point! HyperZonktalk 02:51, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: 3 google hits for "Western Regional Dialect", including this one bartleby . Kappa 11:03, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete homogeonous californian accent is questionable, and even if it wasn't, there already exists a Regional accents of English speakers article. --DaveTheRed 04:17, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * There's now a redirect on Californian Dialect pointing to this page. Rl 20:49, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes someone redirected Californian Accent but I've reverted it since it's on Vfd. Kappa 22:13, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Californian Dialect is a mutation of Californian Accent, and must be on VfD of its own. Mikkalai 22:37, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, mainly because, well, Californians don't sound like that. --Yath 22:45, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)