Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cam Lyman (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:24, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Cam Lyman
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 * This article was nominated for deletion before back in 2005 and kept, but that was quite a while ago and I believe our standards are higher now. Fro me, this article clearly falls directly under WP:VICTIM, and thus WP:BLP1E. This person's murder did not have lasting significance--a news search shows only 35 results, but none after 2002 (and that was only because someone allegedly embezzled from her estate). No books mention her outside of basic lists (see this Google Books search). Yes, I the case appeared on Unsolved Mysteries, but that, in and of itself, is not enough to meet the criteria in WP:VICTIM. Under our policy of not doing harm to victims of crimes when those crimes were not particularly noteworthy, I believe this article should be deleted. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:42, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:42, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * weak keep - coverage on unsolved mysteries indicates that the subject is atleast not "your average case" as the those kind of shows mostly covers more notable subjects.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 12:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep IMHO there is enough coverage in News archives to meet WP:VICTIM#1. His story has received coverage for several years, before and after the "Unsolved Mysteries" apparition. And even the search in Google Books reports some interisting entries such as Queers in history: the comprehensive encyclopedia of historical gays, lesbians and bisexuals, and transgenders. Not "highly notable", but notable, it's a keep for me. Cavarrone (talk) 22:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * NOTE: A search for "Camilla Lyman" gives different/additional results. Cavarrone (talk) 10:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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