Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Hughes (sports entertainer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While the initially proffered sources are apparently debatable, the evidence provided later of notability carries has not been disputed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Cameron Hughes (sports entertainer)

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This page is on Wiki from 2008 and really there are no WP:RS for him to pass WP:GNG. Cheering and dancing with a tennis player doesn't makes you notable. Meeanaya (talk) 05:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass WP:GNG on much more reliable source coverage than this. Two of the three footnotes are the same deadlinked video piece, whose content is unverifiable for the purposes of establishing that it was about him in any non-trivial way — and the fact that weblinks often die and become completely unverifiable is precisely why one of the conditions that a source has to meet is that it is permanently archived somewhere accessible (e.g. ProQuest or Questia or newspapers.com), so that we will still be able to locate it 10, 20, 50 years later if we need to. And the only reference that is still live is a blog piece in which he is not the principal subject, which is not in and of itself enough. Bearcat (talk) 16:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets GNG: 1, 2, 3. Just because some sources weren't in the article doesn't mean they don't exist. Should be expanded, not deleted. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 21:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * LVSportsBiz is not a reliable or notability-supporting source at all — and while the other two are better, they aren't enough. GNG is more than just "two pieces of media coverage exist, regardless of context": to get a person into Wikipedia on just two valid sources, they would need to have an "inherent" notability claim that guarantees an article, such as winning a major award or being elected to a state, provincial or national legislature. But if you're going for "he hasn't done anything that would normally be expected to get a person into an encyclopedia, but he's still notable anyway just because media coverage of him exists", then you need a lot more than just two acceptable sources to get there. As I've often pointed out, if the mere existence of two sources were enough to hand a person a GNG-based exemption from having to be notable for any conventionally significant reason, then we would have to keep an article about my mother's former neighbour who got into a couple of newspapers several years ago for finding a pig in her front yard. Bearcat (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Alongside the two reliable sources already cited by Sportsfan77777: Business Insider (2015), HuffPost (2017), Las Vegas Review-Journal (2018), Psychology Today(2011) (a blog post, yes, but by the notable & published sports psychologist Sam Sommers). Clear pass through WP:BASIC. While Bearcat's mother's former neighbour can't get in per WP:BIO1E, Hughes has been covered by multiple newspapers over a significant period of time and for several events, including two article-length profiles in national newspapers. Tenpop421 (talk) 22:55, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV based on the sources provided by Tenpop42 and Sportsfan77777. Collectively its enough RS to meet WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 07:42, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep the above editors have made a compelling case. Hughes has been covered by more than one newspaper over time and for more than one event. Lightburst (talk) 01:00, 15 November 2019 (UTC)


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