Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camille Sims


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:40, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Camille Sims

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Not quite there yet in terms of notability for biographies. She's been part of many beauty pageants but none of them significant enough to generate coverage by third-party sources. Likewise, I could only find one blog post mentioning her album debut (as well as a sort of "like" from another artist on the same label ). Pichpich (talk) 19:35, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand that this person is not famous by anyone's standards. However, I think her many titles and major participations allow this article to outrank others like it that have been maintained by Wikipedia (see Maggie_Bridges). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fridou01 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The first thing to notice is that Bridges actually won a state-wide pageant and participated in the Miss America pageant. But more importantly for this deletion debate, Bridges' pageant career resulted in press coverage whereas Sims' did not and we can't write a Wikipedia article if its content isn't based on solid third-party sources. Pichpich (talk) 21:00, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:52, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:52, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as searches found nothing better. SwisterTwister   talk  03:32, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as subject has not been the focus of sufficient reliable third-party coverage to cross the notability threshold. Sims is a state title holder (as Miss Georgia's Outstanding Teen 2010), a fact strangely omitted from the biography as it stands, but the apparent lack of news sources is a problem. Sims was 4th runner-up at Miss Georgia last year and if she fares better at Miss New York this year there might be sufficient coverage to revisit this. - Dravecky (talk) 10:19, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Addendum I've followed this up with extensive clean-up and some expansion of the article. A deep search for sources turned up only glancing mentions, sufficient for verifiability only. Sims was in the Top 10 for Miss New York in 2013 and Top 5 for Miss Georgia in 2015 so perhaps 2016 is her year for the Miss New York title. If so, these improvements will be the groundwork for a resuscitated article. - Dravecky (talk) 11:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)


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