Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camp Modin


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica1000 08:09, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Camp Modin

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No evidence of notability. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Covered in multiple scholarly books and more evident at GBooks.  "As the first Hebrew-speaking camp, Modin became the prototype for camps sponsored by every branch of the community, from socialist Zionists to Orthodox Jews."  --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Those appear to be minor mentions, not the significant coverage required by WP:GNG. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:49, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:17, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:17, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - The sources provided by Arxiloxos, particularly the last two, does demonstrate significant enough coverage passing WP:GNG.--Oakshade (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? The second of those two says of Camp Modin, "An ad in the February 12, 1926 issue of the Jewish Chronicle, for Camp Montrey, for boys, and Camp Owaissa, for girls, exhorted readers to, 'Entrust your Children with a Newark Educator'", and nothing more. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:25, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Just because one source of several provided is an andvert, that doesn't disqualify the others. I didn't feel like typing out "except the advert one" because usually editors understand that but it seems I need to in this case.  But in this case, it's not even an ad but a secondary source adding commentary about an historic ad of this topic, yet another acceptable source. --Oakshade (talk) 21:43, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the GBooks link didn't focus on the correct page and may have caused some confusion. There's more substantive discussion about Camp Modin on the next page (p. 167), where it talks about the camp as an early model of a private Jewish-oriented summer camp, noting that it was "both kosher and Zionistic" and that one counselor was the distinguished rabbi and teacher Milton Steinberg. This link might work better:   Anyway, I think the other links are significant and substantive as well. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:09, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 07:50, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 13:49, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, per several Keep arguments above. Is the nominator going through some list or category of summer camps and nominating them all for deletion, indiscriminately?  Articles for deletion/Camp Kawanhee for Boys is one other where I voted "Keep", too. -- do  ncr  am  00:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC) -- do  ncr  am  21:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
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