Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Can I Retire?


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy delete for the two books. I've closed this by speedy G11. they each of them are merely advertisements for totally non notable books that are not  even listed on worldcat. the asserted refs seem completely irrelevant. I am relisting SBCs of attraction; it should not have been part of the group nomination.  DGG ( talk ) 16:58, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: I was in the process of deleting the first two concurrently; same reason.  No comment on the third.  Kuru   (talk)  17:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Can I Retire?

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Advertising; non-notable. Book is sold through Amazon but extremely low-rated, with all 5-star reviews posted within days of each other mostly by people with no other reviews, indicating advertising in other places. References are not about the subject. Article was proposed for deletion but tag was removed with no changes to the article. KarlM (talk) 06:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages:

The first is virtually identical to the original article - a book by the same author, citing the same references, none of which can be accessed but from their titles do not appear to refer to the subject. The ABCs article formerly contained a large amount of advertising material; when this is removed (as in the current state) there is little left and it almost completely overlaps with JT Tran, the owner of the company. All three are mostly edited by User:Adotrde, who has a record of creating promotion-related pages. KarlM (talk) 07:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - unambiguous advertising (isn't that cause for a Speedy?). Remarkable that the two books are so extremely similar. Perhaps the way to retire rich is to write one book about retiring rich, and market it to the gullible under multiple titles... Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:31, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'll be working on ABCs of attraction, rewriting it so that it is worthy of remaining like other articles similar to it. It is notable, and its workshops have been on various popular TV shows, being viewed by over 4million people, so notability is not an issue. I'm sorry about the two books, and I can add where the books have been featured (in numerous newspapers, radioshows, etc), because they have both become popular locally, but I understand if they won't stick. If I'm allowed some time to gather these sources, though, I would try to rewrite them and make them better. For the record, the sources do mention the books. Thanks. Adotrde (talk) 09:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Three of the sources are news articles, dated 2003, 2004, and 2006; the book was published in 2011. One of the articles is titled "Katonah Museum goes `Back to the Future'", which doesn't sound like it has anything to do with retirement or financial planning.  The fourth is a list of 'Make A Wish Foundation' directors, cited as a reference for the contents of the book chapters.  KarlM (talk) 05:39, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy delete Advertising. "your personal guide" raises an eyebrow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WOLfan112 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
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