Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canoeing at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics – Girls' K1 slalom


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The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Canoeing at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics – Girls&
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Non-notable results of a non-notable sporting event Korruski (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a sports almanac, too specific. Stifle (talk) 13:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete the fact that every single name is a redlink rather underscores that this isn't a notable event. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  13:59, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wikipedia:Olympic conventions says all athletes should be redlinked until they can be bluelinked; many older senior Olympics event articles also have many redlinks. Doesn't mean those are not notable events either. Strange Passerby (talk) 14:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per NSPORT which states: "Events at individual Summer or Winter, Olympic or Paralympic Games are considered notable, e.g. Cycling at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's road race or Skeleton at the 2010 Winter Olympics – Women's" The Youth Olympics is the internationally recognised version for youngsters. Also, all the competetors are notable, per WP:ATHLETE. Just because they're red-linked, doesn't mean they're not notable.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The Youth Olympics is not the Summer or Winter, Olympic or Paralympic Games. It is a subsidiary of it, which would tend to mean that the events should be considered in groups rather than individually. As I said above, Wikipedia is not a sports almanac. Stifle (talk) 13:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is there any evidence that the Youth Olympic Games are a "subsidiary" of the Summer and Winter Olympic Games? It seems to me that the IOC intended to create a new series of games in the spirit of the original Olympic Games: see ("It was during its Session in Guatemala City in July 2007 that the IOC decided to create a new sporting event to educate, engage and influence young athletes inspiring them to play an active role in their communities." [emphasis added]). — Cheers,  Jack Lee  –talk– 15:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep There is nothing wrong with the article. It shows progression to the finals. Final table includes all the medalists, who are surely notable. The format of presentation can be changed to brackets and links to non-finalists removed if desired. No troll (talk) 18:25, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep at least until consensus emerges about how to deal with the Youth Olympics A specialist reference publication about the Olympics would include this information, so Wikipedia probably should too. However, youth sports are not always treated in the same way as adult-level sports; I would recommend that most of the competing athletes should be unredlinked for instance, since it is not clear that they will pass the notability criteria in the future and many of them currently do not do so. TheGrappler (talk) 22:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong keep; the Youth Olympics are hardly a "non-notable sporting event" (and definitely not non-notable by Wikipedia standards), so the nomination is flawed. Per individual event articles for all other Olympic events, this is notable. Strange Passerby (talk) 14:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep but upmerge into "Canoeing at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics": I think the sports at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics are notable enough for their own articles, but it is not necessary to have articles for individual events. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 15:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep for now, until a broader consensus can be determined for the notability or not of the Youth Olympics. This AfD is not the place to determine that consensus; deleting a single article out of Category:2010 Summer Youth Olympics events is not a good result.  Either they all stay, or all go.  Yes, I know about OTHERSTUFF etc. but I think that these articles are essentially a summary-style treatment of main YOG articles, so a consistent treatment must be applied.  I reject any statement that previous consensus for the "regular" Olympic Games should apply here.  The YOG are clearly a new event with an entirely different criteria for competition, and a vastly different amount of media attention–and therefore, secondary sources.  I have yet to see any significant secondary coverage at the event level, so my own opinion is that the set of per-sport articles in Category:2010 Summer Youth Olympics should be used, but the per-event articles should be deleted.  (I am also unconvinced that the complete set of per-nation articles in Category:Nations at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics should exist.)  In other words, the summary-style treatment of YOG is still necessary, just not to the same level of detail that we have for the summary-style treatment of the main Games.  I make these comments even as a long-time WP:WikiProject Olympics member and a staunch supporter of per-event and per-nation articles for the main Games.  I propose that a RfC be used to attain a broader YOG consensus before any action is taken here. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep While the YOG is a worldwide event with importance yet to be established, it is of high potential for future reference. The page has information relevant for tomorrow's stars - i.e. detailed results that will be useful for future look up - for example, the stars mentioned will be in the next Olympics if not the following. For consistency, if this page is to be deleted, all sub pages of the YOG will likewise need to be reviewed. GreenB.live (talk) 08:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.