Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Canyon Crest Academy

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Keep, no consensus to delete. The voting is roughly tied between keep/delete. Throwing out votes simply because of an inclusionist campaign is out of the question. Rhobite 07:14, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

Canyon Crest Academy
Non-notable high school. Apparently this one just opened. Szyslak 07:11, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Gamaliel 07:14, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. --Carnildo 08:43, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. School.--Centauri 12:17, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, schools are not by definition notable, and this one has nothing to set it apart from the thousands of other schools. Radiant! 12:56, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 13:02, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Although the discussion is whether we should keep schools for being notable or not. I may have had conflicting votes in the past about this, as Im sure others have. Inter 14:45, 23 Feb 2005
 * Keep. Needs location in article name. "Notability" is not listed in Deletion policy - David Gerard 14:59, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Necessary to coverage of its local area. (Or could be merged there.) Kappa 16:12, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Cookie cutter school. Barring that, merge/redir. Niteowlneils 17:02, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep and allow for organic growth. Passes the Pokémon Comparative Notability Test. GRider\talk 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. First, that's an argument for consolidation of more Pokemoncruft.  Second, I daresay more people have heard of and been affected by Pokemon than Canyon Crest Academy.  Their reported pupil:teacher ratio of 34 doesn't suggest a particularly impressive institution, either. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 19:30, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Pupil to teacher ratios are not a valid reason for deletion as per Deletion policy. And it has also been established that you need not have "heard of" something in order for it to be encyclopedic.  GRider\talk 21:20, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I saw someone driving 85 mph on Route 128 the other day. Is that an argument that Route 128 should have its speed limit raised to 85 mph? Wikipedia is intrinsically inconsistent. The existence of Pokemon articles that should not be in Wikipedia is not an argument for inclusion of other articles that should not be in Wikipedia. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:22, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Concur with Dpbsmith. Actually the entire 'Pokemon test' is an argument out of spite, and thus invalid. It actually seems to mean 'there are certain articles on a well-known subject that I find totally ridiculous, i.e. pokemon, and therefore a certain other article should be kept since I don't find it totally ridiculous'. Whether you like Pokemon or not (and frankly, I hate it), it is very very famous and very influential. Radiant! 09:10, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Concur with Radiant! and Dpbsmith. vlad_mv 03:15, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete There is precedent for deleting non-notable high schools. DaveTheRed 21:39, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Article does not establish notability. Neither does a glance at the school's website. Dpbsmith (talk) 01:22, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Make a mention in San Diego, California and delete - Skysmith 09:34, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * keep this please Yuckfoo 21:22, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This and all school articles. Wincoote 23:49, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Preisler 04:10, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of notability. Jayjg (talk)  17:18, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. (I'm happy that someone likes the school that much, I really am. But it just isn't worth an encylcopedia article.) -Aranel (" Sarah ") 22:26, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Carrp | Talk 16:53, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jonathunder 21:40, 2005 Feb 27 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. --BM 15:42, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notability is not a deletion criteria. The Recycling Troll 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Non-notable topic => not an encyclopedic topic => no potential for the article to become encyclopedic. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:32, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Erm? NO! Convoluted chain of dubious logic => misleading statement => WRONG! The Recycling Troll 12:09, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is probably a significant part of its local community and is certainly significant to its members. Yes, it's a stub that needs expansion but we're not running out of paper... If not that then create a High Schools in San Diego article and merge.LukeSurl 20:02, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Secondary schools, at least, are notable and relevant to thousands of people in the local area as well as alumni and current students.  And I'm not really quite sure what the age of the school has to do with it - surely that would be all the more reason to allow an article to develop? Drw25 19:58, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable. BEEFSTEW score of 3 (A,D,H), and D is stretching it. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 04:30, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)


 * Notice to reviewing administrator: There was an attempt to vote stack on this article. See GRider's contributions.  Votes beyond this point need to be reviewed carefully and considered carefully. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:44, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Users must consider all policies and former consensus before commenting for consensus: Please note, Deletion policy, is not the only policy to consider.
 * Votes for deletion/Precedents
 * What Wikipedia is not
 * What's in, what's out

Considerations should also be made to the following as well:
 * Google test
 * Importance

Users should remember that the Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:44, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep but expand.--BaronLarf 19:20, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --Spinboy 20:30, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, high schools and beyond are inherently encyclopedic (and I shan't get started on all the video game nano-cruft that lurks around here). Wyss 21:06, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Notice to AllyUnion: Seeing as I'm not a newcomer, bite me. My vote stands and I thank G-Rider for bringing it to my attention!  I almost missed this one.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 03:18, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * I pity the fool who does not keep. RaD Man (talk) 22:37, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable.  --L33tminion | (talk) 22:41, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a decent school stub and has potential to become even more encyclopedic. --Andylkl 23:30, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Interesting school stub, wikipedia is not paper. --ShaunMacPherson 01:44, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I feel it is very notable. -CunningLinguist 02:59, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Google results returned only 236 finds. - Mailer Diablo 12:22, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. JuntungWu 12:53, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. high schools are notable RustyCale 13:30, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think schools are inherently notable. Further, "notability" is not listed in Deletion policy (even though I wish it were, and have tried to include it), so isn't grounds for deletion anyway. Dan100 17:51, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This school is notable, it is a school that is getting much publicity in san diego county for having a revolutionary program in which the school prepares it's students for careeres in the technology and arts field. penguinix 23:12, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * User's third edit. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 01:52, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)


 *  KEEP  all REAL places -RickK^h^h^h^h^h. Schools are inherantly notable and this belongs on Wiki.  ALKIVAR &trade;[[Image:Radioactive.svg|18px|]] 03:43, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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