Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Advocate Fazlul Karim


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Captain Advocate Fazlul Karim
He has significant role in the Hisory of Bangladesh

This is not just a biography of first class constructor but family history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah Harun Jewel (talk • contribs) 00:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) We respect him, but do u think a separate page can be created?
 * Comment Nominator made b0rked afd which said "We respect him, but do u think a separate page can be created? This is not just a biography of first class contructor but family histry.". Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 00:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  12:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Mayor of a small city of 50,000 (Cox's Bazar) That's arguably sufficient for notability. The contents is probably over-detailed, but that's for editing. DGG (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As the subject was first chairman of cox's bazar, founder of Tamarisk Forest and pioneer in developing Cox's Bazar, sufficiently asserts notability. The contents are now in better shape.--NAHID 19:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Nahid, the link you gave above is a mirror of the Wikipedia article Cox's Bazar. --Ragib (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - the article lacks references. I only voted keep for the claim about the mayorship, but my vote depends on the availability of a reference to back that information. Most of the article sounds like a personal memorial written by a family member (First under DawoodKarim nick, and now under the sockpuppet indranidutta). --Ragib (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. NAHID has pointed to a reference that he was "the first Chairman (after independence from the British) of Cox's Bazar". If you didn't keep removing it that reference would be in the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Did you *Read* the linked page? It is a mirror of the Wikipedia article Cox's Bazar. I will definitely remove any such mirrors from the article, as well as other unrelated external links. --Ragib (talk) 15:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Yes, I did read the page but I didn't compare it with Cox's Bazar. I see you are right. Maybe if you had pointed out that the link was a mirror in your edit summary when you removed it an edit war could have been avoided. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:24, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep per DGG. But it definitely needs more refs. Maybe the creator has some newspaper clippings lying around that we could use.  Graymornings (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Cox's Bazar may be a small town, but its with the longest beach in the world (which is already in the natural seven wonders list), and Captain Advocate Fazlul Karim started developing it as a tourist spot from the forties with his own money and money from foreign donations collected on his own identity. He had donates land worth millions for the benefit and well being of the people of Cox's Bazar. So people should know him. May be the article can be edited, as I am not experienced in doing so. I have news paper cuttings, his personal diaries etc to support them. If people do not know him, how can we tell them by printing books while politicians are always snatching the credits for others' work. But I don't know how to present them. Please advice me on this. Thanks.--Dawoodkarim (talk) 18:53, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Great. I think everyone agrees here that Mr. Karim is notable. All we need are references for the article. Newspaper cuttings are fine as reference, just mention the news article title, (author name if available), date and the name of the news paper. --Ragib (talk) 19:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - and allow time for sources to be found. The other issues can be dealt with through editting.  And if kept, the name needs to be changed to conform to the manual of style.  Note a Fazlul Karim already exists so disambiguation will be needed. -- Whpq (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


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