Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Submarine

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of two pages entitled Captain Submarine and Frank and Gino's.

Further comments should be made on the the articles' talk pages rather than here as this page is kept as an historic record.

The result of the debate was to keep the pages as about half voted to keep.


 * Captain Submarine and Frank and Gino's adverts for restaurants. Maximus Rex 10:48, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Ditto. Viajero 13:00, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Why? We have plenty of fast-food restaurant articles. Keep. - Hephaestos 16:57, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * If you think these are likely to ever become more than stubs (i.e. they are famous in some way) then fine. At present, they are worthless, and were possibly added as adverts.  Plus, they can always be re-added with some real content later.  Delete. - IMSoP 18:50, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nobody bothered to ask me directly if I was directly affiliated with these restaurants and just advertising them here. Your fault. I'm not affiliated with them. I simply added them for the same reason I added every other page aboue Canadian companies (and every other Canada-related article) SD6-Agent 22:51, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * You created every Canada-related article? That might be news to Montrealais, Torontonian, and several others I can name.
 * I don't want to say as a blanket rule all such entries should go, but be reasonable. Is it really your feeling (SD6-Agent) that each of us could go through a list of restaurants (or dry cleaners, or markets, or hardware stores) in our respective towns and cities and create one or two line entries for every one of them? Maybe the big mistake of Wikipedia is to suggest it is a compendium of ALL knowledge? This makes having an article on every school in the world pale by comparison. RULE: If you can look it up in the Yellow Pages, it is likely NOT encyclopedic - Marshman 01:52, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * If that's the case then I would recomment deleting all restaurants here (as I suggested earlier) becaus they can all be found in the yellow pages. Right? SD6-Agent 04:00, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * In general that is exactly what is done (they are deleted after listing at VfD) - Marshman 17:23, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Surely the point is not that the restaurant could be found in the Yellow Pages, but that the entire article could - there is probably less information here than in a small ad there.  Hence my earlier comment, that if it's likely to turn into anything more (soon), keep; otherwise, what is it gaining us? - IMSoP 13:02, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Delete, as such not interesting or significant. Fuzheado 00:54, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep. If we're going to keep every elementary school in the world, why not keep every other thing that anybody has a hairbrained scheme to write? RickK 04:15, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Because one day it will clash with an article about something genuinely interesting or significant under the same title. It's useless clutter. - Rollo
 * Delete. Advert.  Daniel Quinlan 17:59, Nov 26, 2003 (UTC)
 * And now there's Trenton Ray. RickK 02:27, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Delete, advert. This isn't a restaurant guide. Rollo 00:48, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep Captain Submarine. I think we can afford coverage for a Canadian restaurant chain which planned to have 51 restaurants open in 2003. Keep Frank and Gino's, a test site for a restaurant franchise chain. Reading the linked sites can help to understand why things may merit an entry and distinguish them from potentially being every single restaurant in every town. Jamesday 09:35, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep. As above. -- Oliver P. 09:00, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep Captain Submarine. As for the other one, I don't know where I stand yet. Kingturtle 10:19, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Delete - adds Muriel Victoria 15:02, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * I hadn't heard of them before, but they seem to be chains rather than just one restaurant in one town. Maybe not quite as famous as Taco Bell, Burger King, Wendy's, Carls Ir., Sizzler or Starbucks, but over 1,000 people (or over 10,000, even) must have eaten at one of those -- you can't say the same for a mom-and-pop restaurant that someone wants to write a vanity page about. I dare any one of you people voting "delete" and worrying about vanity to try and start a chain that grows into at least 53 stores. Wiwaxia 10:54, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep I was pesueded by Wiwaxia's argumenttheresa knott 09:40, 3 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep! any restaurant *franchise* that has more than 2 places that aren't in the same town should stay 10:33PM, 10 Dec 2003 (EST) User:JessPKC

Vote standing:
 * Keep (8) - SD6-Agent, RickK, Jamesday, Oliver P, Kingturtle, Wiwaxia, Theresa, and JessPKC
 * Delete (8) - Maximus Rex, Viajero, IMSop, Rollo, Muriel, Marshman, Fuzheado and Daniel Quinlan