Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cardiac (comics)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. No further discussion after relisting, opinions are split between keeping and merging but no one is in favor of deletion, so the status quo is kept. Merge discussion can happen on the talk page.  So Why  06:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Cardiac (comics)

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This fictional character article has no WP:RS reliable sources which WP:V its general notability per the WP:GNG and WP:NFICT. Thus this subject is an unsuitable topic for a standalone article. AadaamS (talk) 13:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  13:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: C. BOZ (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: C. Nomination fails WP:BEFORE. A current lack of sources is not the same as no sources existing. Additionally, a previous bold merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: C was overturned as keep. Pinging and, who participated in the merge discussion. Argento Surfer (talk) 16:02, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ping who was involved in the previous merge discussion. AadaamS (talk) 06:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That user was involved in a different merge discussion, which was resolved as merge already... BOZ (talk) 11:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read that discussion and it was not demonstrated how that article satisfied the GNG. As you can see below, Rtkat3 is using another comic to claim GNG. Another Marvel comic isn't a WP:RS because it isn't a WP:SECONDARY source. AadaamS (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * What BOZ meant was that Cjhard participated in a discussion to merge Century, not Cardiac. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:14, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Correct. I'll assume it was an honest mistake on the part of AadaamS, but I was confused for a moment when reviewing the talk page discussion to see where the subject of that ping came in. BOZ (talk) 21:56, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - As I mentioned in the talk page for List of Marvel Comics characters: C, I oppose the merge for Cardiac where I commented that the page needed improvement ever since his appearances during the issues of The Superior Spider-Man. Spidey104 and BOZ even agreed with me that time. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Appearance in The Superior Spider-Man cannot verify notability as a WP:RS is required to verify notability. A WP:RS is per default be a secondary source. TSSM is a primary source because it's another Marvel publication. AadaamS (talk) 06:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Opinion currently split evenly between keeping and merging.
 * Merge as the nominator said, there aren't reliable sources verifying the character's notability. They can't be found. Comic book characters aren't exempt from WP:GNG and WP:NFICT. Cjhard (talk) 06:50, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per BOZ. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:59, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The existence of the miniseries is a strong indicator of notability. I suspect sources will exist, albeit independent fanzines, or the likes of Wizard Magazine. --Killer Moff (talk) 15:11, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - what miniseries? Argento Surfer (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * - that's what I get for relying on my memories. I could've sworn he got one in the 90's, I can even picture the covers! But a quick google reveals no such thing. Oh well. Sign of getting old... --Killer Moff (talk) 15:28, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Trying one more time to see if we can get a clear consensus what to do here: Keep or merge?
 * Merge per BOZ.   Dr Strauss   talk   10:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  So Why  12:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.