Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caribbean Journal of International Relations & Diplomacy (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. SoWhy 10:23, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Caribbean Journal of International Relations & Diplomacy
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Article was kept after an AfD somewhat over a year ago. However, since then no independent sources have cropped up. The journal is still not indexed in any selective database. At the previous AfD, several editors !voted "keep" based on a handful of citations to articles that appeared in this journal. Some such citations are to be expected, but to show notability for this journal, many more would be needed (at least several hundred, although that would not be enough to make a single person notable under WP:ACADEMIC, let alone a complete journal). In conclusion, not a single one of the criteria of WP:NJournals are met, nor does this meet WP:GNG. Hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 06:42, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Neutral I don't dispute the specific facts regarding this journal presented by Randykitty (most notably that this is not a journal indexed in a selective database) and believe this is a GF re-nomination by RK. However, I am somewhat of the mind that the article should be kept on the basis that notable people have published in it, a fact which - while obliviated by WP:INHERITED - would nonetheless help it meet a liberal reading of Criterion 1 of WP:NJournals, namely that "the journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area". In point of this fact I note that notable people have made the choice to publish in this journal, including Arthur Snell, Benoit Pelletier, Rose-Marie Belle Antoine, Winston Dookeran, Richard Bernal , and others. It has been referenced in a number of academic texts from Springer Publishing, Routledge, and CRC Press. . (For full disclosure, I was the creator of the article, though I have no COI to declare regarding it, pecuniary or otherwise.) On the other hand, I would lean towards this being right on the edge. I made this early in my WP career and, had I the benefit of experience, I might have invested my energy elsewhere rather than in an article on an unindexed journal. If the decision comes down to delete, I won't be really torn up. Chetsford (talk) 07:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)


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Delete, this is indexed pretty much nowhere. It doesn't even have an ISSN as far as I can tell. Fails WP:NJOURNALS. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:46, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The only independent source, the Palgrave Handbook, gives this only a passing mention. That's not enough for WP:GNG, nor is there any evidence of passing any of the WP:NJournals criteria. In particular Chetsford's list of supposedly-significant publications are mostly or entirely uncited, so I don't find their claim of significance to be credible. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:00, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


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