Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caring for our Watersheds


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was move to draftspace. I'm not sure why it was moved from userspace to mainspace instead of draftspace when it is obviously not a finished article. (non-admin closure) — Jkudlick • t • c • s 20:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Caring for our Watersheds

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Ok, I'm probably the last person who should be nominating this but this was formerly in articlespace, listed as Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hershey890/Caring for our Watersheds for deletion since it hadn't been touched since March 2014. MFD had one keep vote and one move to draft vote with neither seemingly saying it is notable as it was (could be notable). Meanwhile, it was moved to mainspace with the MFD removed so I closed the MFD as keep or moot or even nomination withdrawn (?) I guess. However, there's no actual indication that this is a notable competition: the website itself still has a 2014 copyright notice but this page shows that there is going to be a final competition this year in April 2016. I haven't been able to find sources for it either. So I guess draftify? Let this bounce this back and forth between MFD and AFD? Ricky81682 (talk) 08:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Return to user's userspace. Shouldn't have been stolen from that editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.170.48.39 (talk) 08:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Move to Draft namespace, at Draft:Caring for our Watersheds, per my comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hershey890/Caring for our Watersheds. North America1000 10:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Move back to author's userspace and WP:SLAP the blatantly tag-teaming WP:GAMING userpage deletionists. It is blatant deletionists gaming to move a userpage to mainspace to AfD it when you can't compose a good reason to delete it from userspace. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC) Here is a threat to commence this WP:GAME, by the MfD nominator and page mover. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * A move to Draft namespace gives the article more prospect to actually be improved by other potentially-interested editors. Note that if it is re-userfied, it may never be improved, because people are unlikely to ever see or find it there. Its author,, has made only four total edits to Wikipedia, which ended in March 2014. As such, I recommend draftification, along with a notice on the creator's talk page about the page move. North America1000 11:35, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I am neutral, but leaning support, on experienced editors being allowed to move userpage drafts to draft space, whether they may be better exposed to reviews, and will likely be deleted as a matter of course with a variety of nicely worded messages and simple instructions on how to get it undeleted any time in the future. I don't oppose this, but don't think it proper that the userspace to draftpace move should be decided as an AfD consensus decision.  ie.  The decision here should be to move it back to userspace.  I don't oppose its move to draftspace as an editorial action.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Regarding draftification from userspace pages, the practice is already in place. For example, see a script (that I sometimes use) at User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/Draftify. North America1000 12:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I clearly don't keep up with everything.  Draftifying apparently abandoned drafts with some quality material seems a good idea.  Does the tool leave the user a nice message explaining what just happened, and how they can retrieve the draft?  Or, I supposed that is covered by the G13 autodeletion process?  I trust a redirect is always left behind, so the user if he returned is taken straight to the draft and not a confusing new page creation tool.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:12, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Depending partially upon which boxes are ticked when using the script, it automatically creates a redirect to the draft namespace page and automatically notifies the user on their talk page about the matter and the location of the draft. It also watchlists both the user page and the draft page. Works quite well. North America1000 13:45, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


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