Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carl E. Fields


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The result was delete. WP:TOOSOON Missvain (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Carl E. Fields

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Not yet notable--still a postdoctoral fellow; the awards are student awards.

The only 2 publication seem to be

Fryer CL, Lloyd-Ronning N, Wollaeger R, Wiggins B, Miller J, Dolence J, Ryan B, Fields CE. Understanding the engines and progenitors of gamma-ray bursts. The European Physical Journal A. 2019 Aug;55(8):1-3., has been cited 7 times only according to Google Scholar

and Fields CE, Couch SM. On the Development of Multidimensional Progenitor Models for Core-collapse Supernovae. The Astrophysical Journal. 2020 Sep 18;901(1):33. has been cited 3 times only.

The various references are all entirely PR or announcements.  DGG ( talk ) 05:12, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Astronomy-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Postdocs are usually WP:TOOSOON for academic notability, and his junior-researcher awards and two 100+ citation articles, both in middle position among many non-alphabetical authors, are not enough to stand above that in this field. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Scopus shows 298 citations and an h-index of 7, far below that of his coauthors in what is a high-citation field. He does not meet any other NPROF criteria either. JoelleJay (talk) 04:48, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. per above, fails WP:NPROF and is just TOOSOON. --hroest 15:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Question I note the article says "Forbes top 30 under 30", but digging deeper shows that it was "Forbes top 30 under 30, for science, within North America". There's a top 30-for-30 for Asia too and other places too, and there's one for business and things other than science too. Still, top 30 under 30 for science in NA is a very exclusive list with only 30 awarded out of millions that qualify. It seems more selective than, for example, the Guggenheim Fellowship. Is this not enough for general or academic notability? I'd like to point out that "lack of citations" alone shouldn't be used to delete an article about someone. Dr. Universe (talk) 04:11, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The Guggenheim fellowships are grants of substantial money, given by a non profit organization with expertise in the field, advised by those who can judge academic and artistic notability, to those who ""who have demonstrated exceptional capacity for productive scholarship or exceptional creative ability in the arts.",," not open to students, only to "advanced professionals in mid-career"; the Forbes "awards" are awarded by editors working for a business enterpris  to people who are not mid career, but mostly just beginners. They correspondingly away 40 under 40, and so forth. It's an elaborate publicity gimmick, originally for their social media network.   (There are other Forbes list, such as for  richest people, that are awarded on the basis of what business journalists do have expertise) DGG ( talk ) 05:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Question Is this article worth considering TOOSOON. Can be it allowed to be incubated in draft space? Adamsamuelwilson (talk) 12:53, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That's normally only permitted for 6 months. If the person ever does become notable, it's more likely to be 5 years. DGG ( talk ) 08:07, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


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