Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carl Smith (activist)


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 00:47, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Carl Smith (activist)

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To me this article clearly falls under WP:BIO1E, in particular: When the role played by an individual in the event is less significant, an independent article may not be needed, and a redirect is appropriate. The subject seems to really only be notable for his UN appearance in September 2019 as part of Greta Thunberg's entourage, and the only significant press coverage he received is a local newspaper report about the UN event. If he has played a notable role in the public ever since, the article doesn't reflect that. bender235 (talk) 16:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion. I've added new references and information to Carl Smith's page. Smith has been now been involved in two United Nations events (the most recent in December 2019) and has been featured in national news sources including NPR and CNN, now referenced in the article. While his career as a climate activist is just beginning, his involvement in United Nations activities on an international stage makes him noteworthy. Gthh (talk) 19:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank for updating the article. I'm still of the belief, though, that we're pushing the boundaries of notability too far if we keep this biography. The same argument could, and probably will, be made for most of people on School strike for climate and similar lists. As noble as their cause may be, we don't need to turn Wikipedia into a directory of every teenager who ever raised their voice against climate change or some other presumably pressing issue. After all, Wikipedia is not the right venue for raising the visibility of an issue or agenda. --bender235 (talk) 20:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, not trying to be rude, but not all of the people listed in School strike for climate are teenagers. Some of them are twenty-somethings. Cheers. cookie monster  (2020)  755  18:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And yes, I did spot the sarcasm. As I said, I think we have been stretching the boundaries of WP:ANYBIO too far in many of these cases, and I don't just mean climate change activists. The same could be said for half the people listed on Stoneman Douglas High School shooting. --bender235 (talk) 03:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you that ANYBIO has been stretched in this template and the Stoneman Douglas High School template, but nobody has been wanting to figure out which passes the criteria and which isn't. and I appreciate your efforts  cookie monster  (2020)  755  16:29, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't think Lucy Gray (activist) is notable, either. Needs to be nominated for AfD. cookie monster (2020)  755  16:32, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable climate activist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:31, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable and does not pass GNG. Very few sources on him, and the ones that do mention him are in-depth. cookie monster  (2020)  755  16:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - not seeing how this meets notability.-- Surv1v4l1st ▌Talk 01:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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 * Weak delete They are certainly passing mentions and not in-depth in any manner needed to establish notability, but there is lot and lots and of them, in at least two continents.  scope_creep Talk  18:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


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