Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carles Duarte i Montserrat


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ leaning keep. Daniel (talk) 03:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Carles Duarte i Montserrat

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This highly decorated monument to the subject does not contain as much citation as decoration. No political elected role or appointment, scant assertion of notability as a poet or writer, no enduring impact on the arts as an artist - although has held a number of administrative roles in arts organisations. The first source in the article is sourced to an article based on Wikipedia, which is always an impressive achievement - but the second source is to Wikipedia itself, which rather trumps the first triumph. The third source is to a list of appointments, the fourth - Diari de Girona - is a routine appointment announcement (and identifies the subject as a regular contributor to Diari de Girona) while the fifth is the announcement of an award for "unconditional support" to the publications collected by the Catalan Regional Press Association. The final source, possibly the only contribution we have here to potential notability, is for "The poet and linguist Carles Duarte, president of the National Council for Culture and the Arts, has won the 2014 Ramon Fuster award for his civic, cultural and literary career." However I could find no evidence that the award itself (conferring 3,000 Euro) is itself notable. The subject's Catalan WP article is virtually unsourced, BTW. WP:BEFORE shows no body of critical review, no evidence we pass WP:GNG, let alone the four criteria of WP:ARTIST. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:28, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Arts, Poetry,  and Spain. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:28, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
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 * Hi, i completely agree with all what you said, of course it is possible to find all references you ask for, but right now i haven't enough time to do it, so Ishall return it to user:mcapdevila and wait for better times with plenty of references..Thanks for your honest advice.. Mcapdevila (talk) 16:40, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:36, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. Article needs better sourcing but there do appear to be signs of possible notability, eg president of Catalonia Foundation, cofounder and "director" (whatever that neans) of Journal of Language and Law. There's a lot of publications; have none of them received reviews? Some of the awards might also be of interest, eg "Chevalier des arts et des lettres of the "French Republic"" -- is that Chevalier of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres?. There might be a problem with the name if sources call the subject "Carles Duarte"; there are 67 hits for this in Proquest search, but all I looked at were not in English. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:44, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Comment -- maybe more notable than the English article indicates. In the Spanish Wikipedia we can read:

Cargos ocupados Presidente de Fundació Catalunya (1983-1989) Secretaría General de la Presidencia de la Generalidad de Cataluña (1999-2003) Director de Fundació Carulla (2003-2016) President of Catalan Council for Arts and Culture (2012-2019) Director general de Institució Cultural del CIC (desde 2016)

These seem to add up to notability. Athel cb (talk) 09:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 13:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: You have to dig a bit, but the good results show up on page 3 of the Gscholar resutls. is a review from a Romanian journal circa 1990, covered in this book .  Oaktree b (talk) 13:18, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep per sources dug up above. Also Chevalier of France's Ordre des Arts et des Lettres further helps make the case for this article.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 01:42, 26 October 2023 (UTC)


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