Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlie Wong


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The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   05:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Carlie Wong

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If I understand precedent correctly, reality show participants aren't considered notable unless their importance has also been discussed in reliable, third-party sources. This particular person finished eighth on a season of Project Runway, and in my opinion, does not have the sources that would make her notability clear. I searched google briefly and didn't find the kinds of sources that I thought met WP:RS. Prod removed by creator, who appears to be Carlie Wong herself. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I, myself, am not Carlie Wong, but the only wikipedia I planned on creating was for Carlie Wong (thus the username). And if Kelli Martin, Kit Pistol, Kevin Johnn, and Diana Eng can have articles for Project Runway when none of them are notable (and their articles are otherwise stubs), then Carlie Wong should be able to have one, too. Carlie Wong has shown a collection at L'Oreal Fashion Week and is preparing to show again in October. The four designers I have named above have never shown at a prestigious fashion week. So if they have this "notability" then why doesn't Carlie Wong? Perhaps propose to delete their articles?

I do understand you are trying to keep wikipedia orderly and the best it can be, so I appreciate you carefully checking my article (now with refrences/citations and celebrity clientele to come in the next few hours/days). So I really hope that this article doesn't have to be deleted, because I really do believe it is notable.

If there's any way you see the article can be improved as a matter of rhetoric, do let me know.

Thank you, Brett CarlieWong (talk) 22:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * "Comment speaking about other articles as a defense of this one is not an appropriate argument. See WP:WAX.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as this person is known for one event... that she did not even win. The article is certainly sourced to heaven... but where is the notability?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wong is noted for Project Runway Canada and for L'Oreal Fashion Week. That's two events going on three. But if you really do feel strongly about deleting it, please do so. You are the experts, not me. So I'll completely understand if you do. No worries. :)

thank you for your consideration.CarlieWong (talk) 00:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Query: Could someone knowledgeable advise, if you strip out the Project Runway thing, at what point would showing a collection at a Fashion week cross the notability threshold ? -- SockpuppetSamuelson (talk) 09:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Losing contestants on reality shows aren't notable, but neither are high school football coaches like Mark Mangino: they can be notable simply by having multiple reliable sources, and neither being the losing contestant nor being a high school football coach disqualifies them from notability. Wong seems to have about five different reliable sources on this article, and (as the unsigned comment says) for different events, too, so I can't see how this person fails the notability test.  Nyttend (talk) 17:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Delete per nom. I don't know why someone would make a username based off a real person if they are not said person. Even if they aren't, it's just going to lead people to believe that they are.--CyberGhostface (talk) 23:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

If Carlie Wong is so notable then Biddell should have a page, since he won. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.247.26 (talk) 02:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


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