Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Beltrán Leyva


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 00:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Carlos Beltrán Leyva

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Lack of notability. Has not been convicted; he is not on list of top drug traffickers. His relationship to his brother and potential relationship to the cartel does not make him notable. Too much speculation to show notability. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 00:47, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, references show significant coverage, and thus notability per WP:GNG. The suspect's arrest and familial relationships are facts, not conjecture. Werner Heisenberg (talk) 01:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm the primary author. I think the article is well sourced and well written, at least for its early stage. And even if his role in this cartel is lower than that of Arturo Beltrán Leyva, Carlos was still one of the five creators of the cartel, which alone makes him notable. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  01:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * But there is no information to write an biographical article about this person. You have written a news story. Show me a source with in depth biographical information so we can write about his life. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 01:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, the article as it stands right now is a biography, rather than a news article. It's not about his arrest. It outlines his role in the creation of the Beltran-Leyva Cartel, his part in the split from the Sinaloa Cartel, some context about his role in the organization, and then his arrest. There is room for more expansion, I agree, but there is no deadline and the simple fact that more work needs to be done isn't a valid reason for deletion. —  Hun ter   Ka  hn  02:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep,, Carlos and his 4 brothers head one of the 5 drug cartels that have flooded the whole country with brutal violence and contributed to NOTABLE casualties above 16,000 deaths. He does not "have to" be convicted in order to be notable. The article is well referenced and it only needs his birth date and other minor details. --BatteryIncluded (talk) 02:42, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I see enough coverage of him to satisfy the general notability guidelines.  Jujutacular  T · C 19:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - the coverage is enough to establish notability. Any futher issues with the article are editting concerns and not a reason for deletion.  -- Whpq (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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