Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Boquin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Carlos Boquin

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Highschool footballer, not notable Ryan Vesey  Review me!  20:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I apologize for my initial poor explanation; however, this player does not meet WP:NFOOTBALL. The requirements are generally that they have either represented their country playing football or have played on a professional team.  There are no options for high school players.  Speedy deletion as an advertisement might be appropriate as well.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  20:40, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * However, Notability (people) allows articles on people significantly covered by reliable sources, irrespective of any inability to meet a subject-specific guideline. High school players (who receive media attention as such), aren't notable, ever? Come on. Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 20:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The coverage that was received was primarily coverage of the team or related to his eligibility controversy. It is primarily about the team so he is not the subject of those sources.  It has been a fairly consistent viewpoint around this issue that high school players are rarely notable and I do not see this player achieving either WP:GNG or anything in WP:NSPORT.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  21:01, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment, Sorry I wasnt finished editing his page. He did participate in the NPSL with the Minnesota Kings, would that help note his Notablity? Thanks Darbaki7 (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment, would playing in the NPSL proove his Notability as an athlete? If so, could I take away the "AfD" box at the top of his page?Darbaki7 (talk) 22:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darbaki7 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't believe so because the NPSL doesn't appear on WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment, So I'm guessing that his notability has been proven because he played in a professional league, am I correct?Darbaki7 (talk) 22:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it hasn't been proven, because his involvement with the NPSL isn't even mentioned in this article yet, nor has the NPSL been established as being a fully professional league. (In fact, the league's web site says that the teams are "comprised of players holding amateur playing status".) The "AfD" box at the top of the page should not be taken away until the deletion discussion is complete, which normally takes one week. If the discussion results in a consensus to keep the article, the administrator who closes this discussion will remove the AfD box at that time. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:50, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - the NPSL is the hightest non-fully pro league in the US, meaning that playing in it does not confer notability per WP:NSPORT, and the coverage he has received has been incidental, i.e. insufficient for notability under WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:38, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Life  talk  13:52, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment, Ryan, it says at the top of the page that the list of pro leagues isn't fully completed, also to note that it doesn't even have Liberia's top league in there. Liberia's professional league has produced many top players in Europe and Wikipedia doesnt have it listed? The wikipedia list is unreliable. Thank you Darbaki7 (talk) 16:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at the leagues listed under the United States you will notice that they are all from the top three tiers of the United States soccer pyramid. NPSL is on the 4th tier.  The page about NPSL states that the league is comprised of players holding amateur status.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  16:33, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY as a player with no significant media coverage who has yet to play in a fully professional league. Kosm1fent Won't you talk to me? 13:24, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly non-notable. DaveApter (talk) 20:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


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