Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Hoenen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:59, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Carlos Hoenen

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Quite a simple nomination - does not meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Came across this article during suggested cleanup tasks, and there is little I can do to assist in improving this article. Its three sentences say all there is to say about the subject, and it has no ability for expansion due to a lack of significant coverage or verifiable sources. Per WP:CREATIVE this person is not an important figure, no significant new photography techniques, no major role in a well known work, and the works are not of significance. Such-change47 (talk) 09:19, 22 December 2021 (UTC) Relisting comment: To consider Kacamata's notes. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 06:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Such-change47 (talk) 09:19, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Not as simple as you might think, the corresponding article in the Portuguese Wikipedia is much more complete as has a good amount of seemingly reliable sources. Curbon7 (talk) 10:19, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:22, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:22, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:22, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:11, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete there is nothing here to establish notability. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NARTIST. Ginbopewz (talk) 22:43, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: The article only needs improvement. The article in Portuguese is much better. A quick search shows that he was one of the most important photographers in Brazil in the late 1800s. His photography studio was one of the most important in São Paulo (Brazil's biggest city). He's mentioned in several books and works about the history of photography in Brazil. See here, here, here, here and here. He also has a profile at the pt:Enciclopédia Itaú Cultural which, in Brazil, is normally an indication that an artist is notable. I believe he passes WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST. Kacamata!  Dimmi!!! 06:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 06:08, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kacamata! 's comments. Curiocurio (talk) 17:34, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Comment I rewrote the article using information from the Portuguese article about him, and added sources. I suppose it passes WP:NBASIC. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 18:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I looked at the (english translation of ) that Portuguese article. I don't see notability as an historical figure or as a creative artist. or businessperson.  DGG ( talk ) 06:52, 16 January 2022 (UTC)


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