Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Rafael Uribazo Garrido


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Carlos Rafael Uribazo Garrido

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This is one of a batch of articles created by a WP:SPA to populate Category:Cuban contemporary artists that they created (the subject of a WP:COI/N that resulted in a bot removing 145 WP:LINKSPAM URLs from the articles ... it lacks any WP:RS attribution to WP:Verify the WP:BIO notability criteria ... an expired, seconded PROD was declined by Some Other Editor so I have opened this AfD. &mdash; 05:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable artist.  MBisanz  talk 05:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No reliable sources. Though I can't be sure he's non-notable, I couldn't find anything on Google with substantive commentary on his work, that appeared to be an edited web site or paper publication. Since he has lived in Spain for 18 years his work could have received press attention there, but we don't see any trace of that in the article. EdJohnston (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Article easily establishes notability, but it's unverified. Maybe someone can track down a Spanish-language source? -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 20:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC) Currently has refs. -- brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 20:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. This man is one of a group of Cuban artists that we don't know much about, but was added en masse some time ago by someone who may be operating an art gallery. It's technically true that we don't see any adequate secondary sources. In response to Brewcrewer, if you are confident of this artist's notability, which of the following clauses do you believe Uribazo Garrido satisfies?
 * The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
 * The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
 * The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
 * The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries, museums or internationally significant libraries. EdJohnston (talk) 23:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply.Carlos Rafael Uribazo Garrido satisfies "(c) has won significant critical attention." -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 02:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep given the awards, shows, and museum collection, he;'s probably notable enough, though none of them are really spectacular. DGG (talk) 05:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete an artist who has yet to become notable, fringe at best. Polly  ( Parrot ) 21:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * STRONG KEEP. My understanding that if someone is notable in another language of Wikipedia they are notable in ALL wikipedias. Since he is in Spanish Wikipedia, he is notable. Callelinea (talk) 04:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is a "Chicken and egg" problem ... Antonio Vidal Fernández was copied from the English Wiki to the Spanish Wiki, so "if someone is notable in another language of Wikipedia they are notable in ALL wikipedias" is a specious argument ... the clone of a NN article is still NN. &mdash; 15:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. notable, but Spanish-language refs are needed. and referenced -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 08:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've tried to find reliable sources that mention him and haven't been able to, and I'm not convinced of the notability of the awards he has supposedly won (again we don't even have sources to show he's won them). --  At am a chat 16:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I invite editors to investigate and either improve or delete the articles in this Cuban artists checklist ... if you decline or second a PROD, please update the checklist ... Happy Editing! &mdash; 02:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * VERY STRONG KEEP. I did a check in Amazon books and two books mention him. I am working on a group of about 150 Cuban artists trying to get them references and editing their pages.  Again I must repeat I think it real "sucks" that people with no knowledge on subjects to just vote to get rid of articles without reading the articles and realizing that the person in question might be notable and that all they need is some references. Callelinea (talk) 05:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Callelinea, usually we only 'vote' once. Addhoc (talk) 18:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Addhoc (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


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