Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carol Hiller


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was delete. Mailer Diablo 03:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Carol Hiller
Seems to be a non-notable biography. At first I thought she might be thinking Sky Radio was related to the British broadcast company, but it's not (it's a radio station about airlines).

Most of the results of the Google test aren't her. I don't see a result about her until the 2nd page. Additionally, the author of the article is User:Caroldiego so vanity is possibly an issue (she produced a radio show in San Diego, so that may explain the diego in the user name). Metros232 12:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Sky Radio Network is not a radio station about airlines, it is a radio and television production company whose content is available to airline passengers. This content includes short travel films and audio interviews with newsworthy persons.  The interview programs are produced and hosted by various individuals, including Carol Hiller.  I would think that as a Future Business Leader of America, you'd find interviews with current business leaders of America edifying, and certainly a valuable resource.

style="color: rgb(255, 10, 0);"> Humphreys SPEAK TO MEABOUTTHE THINGS I MESSED UP 15:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete She fails WP:BIO and is a candidate for WP:VAIN David <span
 * Delete, subject does not meet WP:BIO and this appears to be a possible WP:AUTO violation as well. Could offer a userfy...--Isotope23 16:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment You're correct - I am Carol Hiller. Since I have seen other performers and newspersons in whom I was interested listed, I decided to make this entry for those who might be interested in the person behind my voice.  I got the idea to do this when I saw a fellow alumnus of my high school was listed as notable because he/she was elected Mayor of Newark, NJ.  Thought I would add to the glory of the school.  Delete me if you must, but please don't say I fail the test for inclusion of Porn actors.  That just hurts.


 * Comment er, I was refering to WP:BIO, which is the guideline for biographical articles about living persons, and WP:AUTO, the guideline pertaining to autobiographical articles. I didn't see anyone mention WP:PORN BIO, the proposed guidelines for pornographic personalities.  Actually, I'd think you'd want to fail that one...--Isotope23 22:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * CommentPoint well taken. "All great truths begin as blasphemies," however ;)


 * Delete, fails WP:BIO -- Alias Flood 20:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * DON'T Delete --GaelMac 00:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC) -- I first caught a sample of Ms. Hiller's work on a United Airlines flight -- an interview with Ben Stein that was possibly one of the finest interviews I've ever heard. Evidently the other posters don't travel much -- or don't listen to the broadcasts available to them inflight. The shows Ms. Hiller produces for Sky Radio have included interviews with such notables as Pres. Jimmy Carter, Madeleine Albright, Johnnie Cochran, Donald Trump, Steve Wynn, George Maloof & Eli Broad -- to name just a handful. I'd say that's a pretty impressive roster -- not to mention her interview with the late Caspar Weinberger -- and that's only the tip of the iceberg of the interviews she has either conducted, written and/or produced. The targeted listeners are top-of-the-line CEOs, Chairmen and Presidents of major companies/corporations, and Ms. Hiller is often a behind-the-scenes person, so perhaps that is why the posters here are not aware of the quality AND quantity of her work. I guarantee, however, that the folks mentioned above know Ms. Hiller and her work and would consider her "notable" enough for inclusion in Wikipedia's database.

Oh, yes... and a note to Isotope23... I believe Ms. Hiller's remark about the porn bio was with tongue firmly planted in cheek... as in facetious...

(from someone "notable" enough to have worked on 40+ films/TV shows, have music in about a dozen and appeared in a handful)


 * Comment It's so damn hard to tell sarcasm in written form without the context of knowing the author.--Isotope23 03:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Well, you could look me up in Wikipedia. OR you could look up Takeru Kobayashi in Wikipedia, whose accomplishments certainly are notable. Or you could just read this piece of classic prose.


 * Comment GaelMac 01:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC) -- from Wikipedia's own guidelines: "...Lack of fame is not the same as vanity..." so while Ms. Hiller might not be famous, she certainly doesn't merit a "vanity" claim. After all, when was the last time any of the above detractors sat down for a chat with any famous folks? Ms. Hiller certainly has been an integral part of many interviews with major policy-makers and corporate leaders who HAVE changed society (for better or worse, depending on one's point of view) -- the content and effects of which will likely last far beyond any of our lifetimes (which IS a criteria noted in the BIO guidelines, along with: "...widely recognized contribution..." -- and I'd say that millions of listeners -- including Presidents, Congresspersons, Secretaries of State and major, worldwide corporate CEOs -- constitutes a "widely recognized contribution" despite Ms. Hiller's lack of out-of-the-industry "fame"). Ms. Hiller's work is WHY millions of people get to hear what these current and former leaders have to say. That seems pretty "notable" to me.


 * Delete Unless expanded and notability explained. Kidbrother 01:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.