Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carol Shaw (politician)


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The result was Delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:43, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Carol Shaw (politician)

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This is an article on a person who is part of a Borough council in London. While members of the Council of Greater London may be notable, there seems no reason to think that members of local councils are notable. The fact that this article is only sourced to the subjects webpage is also not helpful, and shows a failure to meet the general notability guidelines, even in the most lenient interpretations of independent sources. John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I share the concerns. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 16:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:35, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Someone who has been a councillor for almost a quarter of a century, being re-elected 5 times, might be notable. I'm not checking her webpage, I don't want her cookies, but if she is at least locally notable there should be some local newspaper mentions of her (the search will be Carol Shaw councillor, not Carol Shaw politician). Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 19:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * While London is a large and internationally famous city for which members of the main London Assembly are deemed to pass WP:NPOL, that does not automatically extend to members of the individual borough councils — a borough councillor must actually pass WP:GNG by virtue of a substantive volume of reliable source coverage, of which there's exactly none here. No prejudice against keeping if the sourcing can be beefed way up, but in this state it's a delete. Bearcat (talk) 22:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, a quick search for "councillor Carol Shaw" produces tales of defections and redefections (Conservatives to the Liberal Democrats and back to Conservatives), being the unsatisfied other woman in an extramarital affair ("We’d be stuffing envelopes late into the night,’ she says". Yes, I'm sure you were, wink wink) that would, years later, hoist an arrogant idiot by his own petard, and "a reputation for being fiery and outspoken". So she is at least a little bit interesting! And maybe slightly tragic. But probably not Wikipedia material. Does that add to the tragedy? A life is unlived unless you are notable enough to be on Wikipedia? The local newspaper would seem to be the Kilburn Times http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk but its search isn't working. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete -- clearly fails WP:POLITICIAN. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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