Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carole Lieberman


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The result was   keep. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Carole Lieberman

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WP:BLP1E: person only notable for one event, in this case a recent controversy relating to comments she made in an interview on Fox News. I can't find sufficient coverage of her in reliable sources outside of that context to suggest that she passes the general notability guideline. We did have an article on her before that controversy (see this version), but looking at it then only makes this person's lack of notability more obvious. Robofish (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Thanks to Robofish for notifying me of this AfD.  She's the author of multiple books from established publishers, the author of a number of scholarly papers, a faculty member at a major university, and a frequent television pundit.  All that adds up to enough notability to take this past a case of BLP1E.  Gamaliel (talk) 02:00, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Please name the books.  Of the 3 listed in the article, 1 is from an established publisher.  This is not a Delete !vote, as there may be other reasons why she is notable.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 11:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * According to Amazon.com, Bad Boys and Bad Girls are from Signet Books and have been reviewed in standard publications. Lieberman is also a contributing editor to Cosmopolitan, according to Amazon. Gamaliel (talk) 15:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - There are "one event" situations which shouldn't be in Wikipeda: Barney Smith was locked in a refrigerator for a record 17 days... etc. — and then there are single "events" which impact the social landscape. Clearly, even a cursory glance at the enormous mass of writing and commentary generated by Lieberman's expression of a "violent video games increase levels of rape" thesis indicates that we have a public figure worthy of encyclopedic biography here. "Dr. Carole's" website LINK indicates that she is a self-described "media psychiatrist" and includes far more detail on other television appearances as an "expert" in this or that than a single appearance on Fox News. Carrite (talk) 15:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Very weak keep - Honestly, the only reliable source in it so far is the Wired article; Reason isn't IMHO, and the others are not either. I looked at Google News and found a few more, but all of them are either completely unreliable or press releases.  She is one of those fringe pop-psychologists who is given far too much press today.  We are slouching towards Jerusalem, while she is barely notable. Bearian (talk) 21:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Bearian. I know this a complete digression and I apologize in advance, but could you explain the meaning of the phrase "slouching towards Jerusalem"? I'm not familiar with that and I would guess there are others here that are similarly unaware. Thanks! Agricola44 (talk) 16:51, 8 March 2011 (UTC).
 * I've never heard it before... A misquote from a 1921 Yeats poem, it would seem... Carrite (talk) 05:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the obscure cultural reference, especially since it's misquoted! Never mind .... LOL. Bearian (talk) 23:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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