Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carolyn Egan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep; I would recommend finding sources for this article, however. Cheers, Yuser31415 06:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Carolyn Egan

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No sources, non-notable local activist. General Idea 21:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Definately not local with the "awards" she has won.


 * Comment Only 700 google hits for "Carolyn Egan", many of which are for other people with the same name. However, one actual commentary from CBC mentions an award this Carolyn Egan got (no date on the award though).  Interestingly, this source talks mostly about how good it is for "behind the scenes" type people to get awards; is it a signal of notability to have a article about you talking about how sad it is that no-one knows who you are?  I need to know more before I have an opinion on this, but this article  might be helpful. Enuja 07:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In the second page and farther in the google result pages, there also appear to be a lot of left (listen to what this person is doing!) and right (careful, we've got an activist around) press releases and biased stories about Carolyn Egan's campaign against Steven Harper. I don't know enough about canadian politics to know what's a good source and what isn't, but I'm starting to suspect that there might, indeed, be multiple non-biased sources about Carolyn Egan. Enuja 07:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Note This discussion has been included in the list of Canadian candidates for deletion Enuja 08:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * keep though I disagree with her politics mostly, pretty damn notable persyn on the left in Kanada and particularly in Ontario. Very active with steelworkers and the Trotskyite I.S. --Mista-X 00:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Delete. Can find nothing that really meets criteria of WP:BIO. Combing the ghits doesn't really bring up anything useful to persuade me otherwise. If reliable sources and BIO criteria are added, I could easily be swayed. Agent 86 00:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Lexis-nexis produces about 200 articles for her name, most of which have her as the pro-choice advocate to be quoted during the abortion wars of the 80s and 90s. For an article about her, see  Sandy Naiman, "For Egan, life's all about choice", The Toronto Sun, May 18, 2000, Final edition, p. 75.  (I quick glance suggests to me that it is the source of much of the detail in the article.)   Buck  ets  ofg  04:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I can state categorically that it's virtually impossible to be even remotely connected to Canadian politics, even only as an observer, and not know who Carolyn Egan is. If somebody who lived in this country and was involved in the political process in any significant way said they'd never heard of her, I'd find that about as believable as if they'd never heard of June Callwood, Judy Rebick or Michael Coren — that is, the only possible answer to that statement would be "bull freaking shit, dude". She's entirely notable enough, IME; keep. I'll work on improving the sources. Bearcat 01:40, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I sure hope you're not calling other editors ignorant (or worse), because it is coming across that way. "I heard of this person" is not an inclusion criterion on WP:BIO or on any other policy or guideline. I've also heard the name before, hence my taking the time to look for other info, but for the life of me fail to see how this article meets the policies we have in place (such as WP:V and WP:RS. At present, the article still fails to meet any of these. Agent 86 20:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep She is in the news sometimes for her abortion rights campaigning. For example, the New York Times has a subscription-only article with her .--Oakshade 05:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Bearcat. CJCurrie 02:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep.   Buck  ets  ofg  04:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bearcat (or worse). Static Universe 22:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bearcat, and we ought to note that the Google test is US-centric. --lquilter 22:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.