Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carrie Hayden


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 17:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Carrie Hayden

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Delete nn musician, fails WP:BAND and WP:BIO. she's unsigned, no releases under a label. To quote the article "Carrie currently holds a job in a busy Liverpool City Center shop to fund her path to "international superstardom". Her musical talent remains unsigned to any record label at present but with Carrie's prospects, a signing is thought likely among fans. Carrie continues to hold occasional shows at bars in the Liverpool area" which sums up her claim to fame - I speedied it before as A7, now its back and I'll let the community decide because it'll no doubt keep coming back until the community does. Carlossuarez46 21:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Also, I think this would fall under speedy delete A7 as I don't see any assertion of notability at all.  -- Blind  Eagle  talk ~ contribs  21:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete concur on speedy. JJL 03:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * comment: this article has already been deleted recently and I advice the author about the copyright violation into this article, so I think it meets CSD A7, G11 and G12. Martial BACQUET 07:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I can find articles less worthy of being on Wikipedia than this - Carrie is one of the most popular unsigned acts in Merseyside, and Merseyside has A LOT of unsigned acts. One of these less-notable articles is Alexis Blue - Please explain what makes these lads more notable than Carrianne... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adlen (talk • contribs) 09:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - please see this info about other articles and your comment above. -- Blind  Eagle  talk ~ contribs  13:44, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Aside from the fact that "She's as good as this other artist" means nothing regarding her own notability, the Alexis Blue article has references, whereas this one does not. Frog47 15:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. An article on this woman may eventually be warranted, but not until she meets the notability guidelines for musicians. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Quote from Notability Guidelines for Musicians: "Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city" - This is explained in the article, Miss Hayden is the "most prominent representative" of slow/acoustic music and the ONLY popular local musician to perform any style other than Rock, Pop or Indie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adlen (talk • contribs) 19:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The policy also says, "the article in question must actually document that the criterion is true. It is not enough to make vague claims in the article or assert a band's importance on a talk page or AfD page -- the article itself must document notability." This article does not reliably document any of its claims in such a way as to verify notability. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete No third party documentation. Minimal content. A self-released CD or two (if that is what those images were of) does not make for a notable band. After she has toured Japan, North America, or Australia, and has a regular gig as a musician, she can have an article here. jonathon 00:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - no reliable sources to establish notability. Also note that the author of the article User:Adlen is also working to promote the subject online (see this diff), so also huge conflict of interest problem, as well as unresolved copyright issues with the text of the article. -- Whpq 14:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I THINK she has done a N.America tour but I don't have full details, shall schedule a meeting with her within the week to find contend based on tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adlen (talk • contribs) 19:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: please note that regardless of what she says, the information will not help the article unless it is reliably sourced through second-hand, reputable sources. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. I think this would fail under any sort of BLP critera & I don't see any assertion of notability. Also I dislike the repitition of the MySpace. This is an encyclopedia after all! Rudget Contributions 16:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.