Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carrier (software)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Pidgin (software). Stifle (talk) 08:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Carrier (software)

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Non-notable fork of IM software Pidgin (and an especially minor, barely changed one at that); only a few minor mentions in blog posts, and the article has been proposed for deletion and speedy deletion in the past, citing notability issues.  GraYoshi2x► talk 20:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * In addition to numerous blogs, it made it on slashdot, which is fairly significant as it is a high traffic site. The software is still kept up to date (the current version for download is 2.5.5, the same as Pidgin). In addition, previous attempts to merge the controversy into the Pidgin article have been systematically deleted in the past, so it's probably best to have its own (small) article where users that are interested, can read up on it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.13.83.10 (talk) 15:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's equivalent to getting a blog post onto the front page of Digg. What does that really amount to in terms of notability? I mean, sure there's a bit of praise and bits of interest being shown in the comments, but it all dies down after a day and the subject is quickly forgotten.  GraYoshi2x► talk 21:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. This is a tricky one. It shouldn't stay where it is but it's good information and I feel it should go somewhere. Could it be merged somewhere better? HJMitchell    You rang?  15:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:05, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Previous attempts to integrate it into the Pidgin page had all of the information removed since the Pidgin editors felt it was spamming the page -- so I moved it back to its own page. I think a separate page is probably better, this way the Pidgin page can just have a single line about it that references the larger page, if people are interested in finding out more about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.64.20.230 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Simply because editors reject it on Pidgin doesn't necessarily mean that it must then deserve an article of its own, especially when it seems to fail notability guidelines and relies mostly on original research to support details. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS.  GraYoshi2x► talk 21:11, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, One (talk) 05:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge. Just from the Carrier features page, Carrier seems non-notable on its face.  That feature list would barely warrant a blog item in a typical project.  I wouldn't think a Slashdot article reporting a software change would establish a subject's notability.  As comparison: there are all kinds of Mozilla Add-ons on the Mozilla website that are probably more extensive than this fork of Pidgin, and yet don't rise to WP:Notability.  If it's not notable enough to exist in another article, it certainly isn't enough for its own.  --Closeapple (talk) 06:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge into Pidgin (software). Just a few differences to Pidgin, so it really doesn't need an own article - while of course the information itself is notable! darkweasel94 (talk) 10:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Pidgin (software). I don't feel it's notable enough to be merged into Pidgin. Maybe a mention, but not all that content. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect to Pidgin (software) and add a sentence or two about the forking drama. That's what's notable, not so much the software result itself (similar in spirit to WP:BLP1E). The software doesn't really sound notable itself except as in relation to the parent-project. Excluding info related to the forking from the forked package, especially since the forking seems notable an clearly related to Pidgin. I think a slashdot main-page picked item is a source of notability for what it's actually about (again, the forking drama). DMacks (talk) 05:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.