Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cartmel Masterplan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Doctor Who (season 25). and possible Merge to several other articles mentioned in this AFD discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Cartmel Masterplan
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This is, at best, a footnote in history. A version of the Doctor Who timeline that was never actually written, and was one subplot for a version of the show which was never written.

I think pretty much every source is in this article. If this is anywhere on Wikipedia, it should be a few sentences in another article. I shall cite WP:FANCRUFT and let slip the dogs of war. BrigadierG (talk) 16:20, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Television,  and England. BrigadierG (talk) 16:20, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep I believe the discussion from its prior AfD still stands. It's a part of Doctor Who's developmental history that has been discussed in multiple sources. If consensus decides on a merge, I wouldn't be opposed, but I believe this has grounds to stick around. Pokelego999 (talk) 19:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete Agree with the nominator that this doesn't have enough coverage for a separate article. Or perhaps merge the content to Doctor Who (season 25), which might benefit from some details about the season's development. It doesn't make sense to create a WP:CONTENTFORK purely about a show's development, particularly when the main article is short and lacking. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:50, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Generous merge to Doctor Who (season 25) - as in, the kind that takes the whole article wholesale and makes it a section, not the kind of merge that is just a redirect and maybe one sentence. This seems clearly notable and sourced, but agree that it is probably covered better as "this is what we planned for the next season but it fell through."  Just because a topic is notable doesn't mean it's best covered in a standalone article - seems like a classic case where this is better off as a section of a larger topic.  SnowFire (talk) 05:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment The issue I would see about a merge to Doctor Who (season 25) is that some of the material relates more to Doctor Who (season 26) (and arguably the unmade season 27). Might Seventh_Doctor be a better option? Dunarc (talk) 21:07, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Why not both? I don't think this warrants a separate article, but I could be convinced about where this should be covered. Either way, I think the details of a re-organization or merge can be worked out through editing. Shooterwalker (talk) 13:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see a reason to delete, if not notable it should be merged with either Doctor Who (season 25) or Andrew Cartmel.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:01, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge with Doctor Who (season 25) or Andrew Cartmel. Seems to be cobbled from WP:SIGCOV failing mentions in passing, but deserves a redirect to somewhere it can be briefly mentioned. It's a fancruft footnote, but probably should not be a red link. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:31, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.