Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cary Barlowe (2nd nomination)


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The result was   Boldly merged to Luna Halo, most notable work. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Cary Barlowe
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The sources added by Colapeninsula right before the first AFD don't cut it. The first only indicates that Cary Barlowe was on a panel of judges; the second says literally nothing about Cary Barlowe, just naming him as the writer of a notable song; and the third is only a chart listing verifiying that said song ("American Honey") went to #1. The statement that he "has had five #1 songs with tobyMac" is inaccurate, as "Made to Love" is the only one of the five that Cory actually co-wrote. His Grammy nomination is a valid assertation of notability, but it was split among four writers, lessening the impact.

I searched and could not find any sources that said anything other than "Cary Barlowe wrote song X". The best I could find was this, which is a primary source. Colapeninsula later said that they could only find directory listings and sheet music. There's no denying that he meets WP:COMPOSER, but WP:COMPOSER is not ironclad; it's entirely possible to write several notable works and/or get a Grammy nomination, but not be notable yourself.

I'm hoping someone will actually !vote this time, as the last AFD was open for three weeks with no !voting whatsoever. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 07:16, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to American Honey (although I'm open to other merge-target suggestions). All of his claims to be notable in his own right seem to go against WP:NOTINHERITED. My !vote is weak, though - if someone finds sources that suggest more notability, I'm open to change. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 17:29, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * (e/c)Merge & Redirect- to American Honey, which should have been attempted prior to returning to AfD. Notability of work seems uncontested, individual seems notable but insufficient sourced material to justify a biographic article; willing to reconsider if additional sources are located. Valid search term should lead to most notable or best sourced work to date "written by Cary Barlow[ref], who has also written songs for a,[ref] b,[ref]...". Revisit when a substantive article can be sourced. Dru of Id (talk) 17:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about this since American Honey is not the only song he's known for. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:42, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ...exactly why I said "...or best sourced work to date.", if some can cite a better anchor destination. Dru of Id (talk) 22:11, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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