Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casey Christopher


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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Casey Christopher

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Non-notable body builder, few if any rs with truly meaningful coverage. Almost all of the sources are completely unreliable and the rest are basically photo galleries. Praxidicae (talk) 18:38, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi user:Feezo, user:Praxidicae and user:CAPTAIN RAJU

First I would like to thank you for your contribution and correction in the article.

Casey Christopher is a bodybuilder is a model from Milford, I took this information from his official website. This body builder and model come to my attention when articles about him started publishing in Indian news portals and website.

Its not true that all the links are not-reliable (some of the links might be). Npcnewsonline.com is a reliable source. Muscleandfitness.com is 30+ year old US based magazine. Magzter.com is a well known website in India (for proof, please check alexa rank).

I have also posted link of few photos from alamy.com and gettyinages.ca to show that he actually walk on the ramp on new york fashion week and los angeles fashion week. There could be no other proof of him being on these fashion shows.

If you need more proof then I'll search on internet to find more of it.

I'm new to wikipedia, but before writing my first article, I have read the policies. I know what to write and what not. Just trying to be a writer on wikipedia as it always fascinates me. Poojasharma20 (talk) 09:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~SS49~   {talk}  06:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hi all, I am not getting any response from anyone in this discussion. I want to know what more references I can provide or how can I improve the article or may be style of writing articles. Poojasharma20 (talk) 17:07, 28 February 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 15:12, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * delete I know basically nothing about bodybuilding. The problem with this article is I don't see significant independent coverage that meets the GNG. Yes he's walked on the runway as a model and appeared on some bodybuilding magazine covers, but I don't think videos and pictures are enough to show notability or even model would have an article.Sandals1 (talk) 23:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi user:Sandals1,

How can you comment on an article when you know nothing about the topic. You yourself said, you know nothing about bodybuilding. The references I gave was legitimate references. 1. NPC National Championship : (Official Scorecard). npcnewsonline.com is an official website of NPC. 2. Arnold Amateur So you cannot doubt on these links.

3. About the magazine covers, the references I gave was from a magazine which has a legacy of over 35 year. These links are not unreliable but proof of the actual (hard copy of magazines printed) magazines : -
 * https://www.muscleandfitness.com/features/newsstand/get-july-2018-issue-muscle-fitness
 * http://www.malefashiontrends.com/2018/11/casey-christopher-para-adon-magazine.html
 * http://fantasticsmag.com/covers/party-boys/
 * http://www.mdlatino.com/blog/md_tv/casey-christopher-atleta-mens-physique-con-mdlatino-video/
 * https://www.magzter.com/articles/3401/282974/5b24ec26f0ade

4. About the fashion show appearance, there is no other proof then photograph. These photos are not morphed or anything, what else on earth be a proof of him being on these fashion shows other than images?
 * https://mikhailveter.com/live/casey-christopher-in-michael-costello-c8elg
 * https://www.alamy.com/los-angeles-fashion-week-art-hearts-fashion-held-at-the-majestic-downtown-arrivals-featuring-brad-jason-ho-michael-costello-ernesto-rene-rosales-casey-christopher-where-los-angeles-california-united-states-when-11-oct-2018-credit-sheri-determanwenncom-image224705265.html
 * https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/casey-christopher-walks-the-runway-wearing-michael-costello-news-photo/1051938484

5. And the last, these are the few articles and interviews I found on internet about him (some may or may not be reliable sources):-
 * https://www.muscleandfitness.com/workouts/workout-routines/its-time-get-rock-hard-shape
 * https://www.tellyexpress.com/know-a-lil-more-about-the-famous-body-builder-casey-christopher/
 * http://www.mdlatino.com/blog/noticias/casey-christopher-martillando-en-su-condicion-pro/
 * https://articles.a1supplements.com/training/abdominals/razor-sharp-abs-casey-christopher/

If still its not qualify to be notable then please tell me what sources do I need? Just looking for guidance.. Poojasharma20 (talk) 13:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete because (1) there is not a single reliable source to prove Notability, and (2) this appears to be too soon in a career only 4 years at most. Bearian (talk) 20:29, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree that this appears to be WP:TOOSOON. In his bodybuilding career, he seems to have come equal 10th (with 18 others) in the 2017 Arnold Amateur Class D Men's Physique, and 2nd in the 2017 NPC National Championships Class C Men's Physique. I don't think there are specific notability guidelines for bodybuilders, but I don't think that coming 2nd or 10th in these competitions would give presumed notability. As far as his modelling career goes, WP:NMODEL is contentious, but criterion #1 can be applied: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", where "multiple notable ... other productions" is understood as multiple notable fashion shows - and there must be reliable sources showing that he had significant roles in multiple fashion shows. Photographs by themselves, or on the photographer's website, are not reliable sources. They need to have been published by reliable sources. This person may well appear in reports of fashion shows in reliable sources in the future, but there is no evidence that he has done so yet. RebeccaGreen (talk) 01:14, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


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