Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cashh-Money Montana


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 02:11, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Cashh-Money Montana

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non notable 16 year old rapper, references ripe with file sharing websites, myspace, twitter, and other unreliable sources Wuh  Wuz  Dat  16:57, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. To me it seems that a 16 year old kid dreaming of fame created this article to establish a career that is just not there. he is definitely not involved with Cash Money/Young Money.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.104.251.207 (talk) 09:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. No clear assertion of established notability. —C.Fred (talk) 17:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Montana is an on-the-rise celebrity, expecting to be signed in early 2010. I will add more reliable sources. — CelebWiki (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Montana was featured in films, and has a mixtape surfacing on the internet; has singles out with celebrities like: Teyana Taylor, Nicki Minaj, Trey Songz, and Lil' Wayne. I believe he has a clear nobility of eligibility to appear on Wikipedia. CelebWiki (talk) 17:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC) — CelebWiki (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 17:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MUSIC. If the supposed future notability ever materialises, the article can always come back then. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Might be notable one day, but that day isn't today. WP:MUSICBIO Niteshift36 (talk) 19:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Light years away from meeting WP:BAND. Has done nothing of note. CelebWiki's arguments for keeping are disingenuous: he has not been "featured in films" (he was an extra in one film, according to the article), and his mixtape "currently surfacing" won't come out until next year according to the article. Not that it will matter because the mixtape still won't be an album on a major or important independent label (and he'd need two of those to meet criterion #5). His theatrical roles appear to all be in school plays, not professional productions. He "expects to be signed in 2010"? Well, it's always nice to have hopes and dreams, but if wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.  &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 19:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: Just another wannabe who fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO for never actually having done anything. CelebWiki claims that this chap has recorded with celebrities, but if so, the celebs haven't seem to have noticed; the only Google hit for him is this article. (Eh, all is not lost.  Perhaps he'll grow up and marry Brianna Rieffel.)   Ravenswing  07:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No Delete Montana was officially signed to Young Money/Interscopeyesterday, 12-22-2009; I doubt he is eligible to be considered a "wannabe" as mentioned above in Ravenswing's vandalism of the new artist's name. Oh well, Google searches will soon show more during searches, until then: I believe Montana's article has a rightful place on Wikipedia; I see no reason why he shouldn't be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.206.115.182 (talk) 16:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Article now shows an unreferenced first album (unreleased, and I would suspect unrecorded at this time), as well as an unreferenced record label. I remain unconvinced of this subjects notability, and my nomination stands as submitted. Edits such as this by the article author show his desperation in trying to keep this article afloat. Wuh Wuz  Dat  16:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Ahem; and what "vandalism" would that be? I've not edited the article, nor see myself doing so before it is properly deleted.  Ravenswing  18:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Even if it's true that he was just signed, it's still irrelevant. WP:BAND criterion #5 requires two albums released by a major label, not just signing. Unless he manages to get two albums released before this AfD closes, it doesn't matter. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 22:44, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment There's no desperation, musical artists do not need Wikipedia articles as promotion, and I believe all users nominating the article for deletion believe that this is what the author's are trying to recieve. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia, and these are facts concerning the newly-signed artist.  If Wikipedia administrators decide to delete the article, it will not be long before a new one is needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.206.115.182 (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Your comment could be seen as a declaration of your intent to be a disruptive editor. Please see CSD:G4, to see what happens to recreated material previously deleted by an AfD such as this. Wuh  Wuz  Dat  17:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no problem with revisiting the issue of whether an article is needed for Montana after he's achieved notability. However, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so we need to wait until the notability is achieved, rather than set the article up in anticipation of it. —C.Fred (talk) 17:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no problem with recreating an article, once additional notability is established. However, recreation of the same or similar article with no further assertion of notability may be deleted under G4, if the consensus of this AfD results in deletion. And Wuhwazdat, please assume good faith. &mdash;Dark 05:41, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.