Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cassie Sainsbury


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Cassie Sainsbury

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Classic WP:BLP1E - she's an ordinary person who got arrested and jailed for drug smuggling. No notability other than for the one event. Neiltonks (talk) 13:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Widely covered in not so-great (tabloid) sources, probably due to being a blonde, white, pretty, drug mule. Little notability beyond this.Icewhiz (talk) 13:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per the above and my comments at WP:BLPN neither the event itself (drug smuggler caught) or the person involved were notable. Drugs smugglers are caught routinely. As the subject has zero claims to significance outside of this one criminal act, its unlikely a BLP could ever be written that would be anything other than a wall of shame negative bio for one event. Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E / WP:BLPSOURCES - I had a look and the most prominent news pieces I found were the Daily Mail bleating about "Cocaine Cassie". No thanks. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:01, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Snow Delete as being so obvious a case of BLP1E as brooks little dissent. Collect (talk) 17:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Three days ago I noted this article was prone to deletion at its talk page, and nothing was done.  It might be salvageable by the usual dodge of writing "Prosecution/Trial/Arrest/etc. of Cassie Sainsbury" -- if so, though, the lengthy history of her life would be irrelevant, and only the last bit would count.  But truly, alas, the pointless prosecution of the War on Drugs is nothing unusual, and it would make far more sense to lump the content in with many other such cases.  According to, "Her case has shone a light on the hundreds of foreign drug mules in Colombian prisons."  We could have an article on that, and this name could redirect to it, so we definitely should not see any admin action that would prevent creation of that redirect.  But otherwise it is hard to argue a way to keep this. Wnt (talk) 23:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment: in fairness, the comments about news sources only being tabloid ones aren't true – the majority of the sources cited in the article are from the likes of the BBC and ABC News, and it was also covered in The Guardian and in reputable Colombian news sources Semana  and El Colombiano, as well as Colombia's two major terrestrial TV channels, Caracol and RCN , . But I don't have any strong feelings about keeping the article one way or the other. Richard3120 (talk) 18:13, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:NCRIME.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.